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Old 10-13-2019, 11:19 AM
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The 19 will not count as a serial number. Receivers that never had a serial number before 1968 should be ok but if it had one and was removed, it is illegal.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:28 AM
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Never had one.
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Old 10-13-2019, 11:44 AM
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I figured that. I have one that is similar but there is something there. From what I understand, if it was produced without a serial before then it does not have to have one. Local gun store just writes no serial in their log when they get a gun known to be produced before then. Think it is kind of a gray area because I have seen where people have had ATF put a serial number on the side of the receiver. I’m not an expert by any means but have asked these kind of questions before with my own rifle. Here’s another thread from here talking about this: http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=108010

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Old 10-13-2019, 12:50 PM
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This was picked up by the previous owner about 30 miles from the former Rock-Ola plant. Any way to differentiate between an early Winchester and a Rock-Ola?
QHMC was in the same area


And on the topic of spring tubes for some details

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/...topic3973.html
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:18 PM
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removed serials can be made legal again--just requires you to get a new serial from ATF, they will get you new number then you have to bring by their field office showing you have the number on the receiver-they call someone and then report case closed--I have done it twice-go online to ATF--if you request they have to give-as long as barrel is removed they have no way of proving was used in crime--technically they could assemble fire some bullets thru your barrel and if could prove it was used in crime they could seize-they do not have money to lift the serials so they don't even go there-one of agents told me was contracted out to minority firms now--not done in house and was a crazy price-I have no idea if he knew what he was talking about but was what was said
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Old 10-13-2019, 01:21 PM
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Doesn't look to be a WRA, their Type I had the short 1/4" (?) Square Mill cut.

Max's shows the longer 9/16" (?) Round Mill cut.

As already noted... No Hardness punch mark.

Curious.... Is it the Narrow Recoil plate tang?

Neat item...

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Old 10-13-2019, 01:26 PM
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Weren't the early RMC Type I receivers...
1 slide notch
about 9/16" round mill cut?

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Old 10-13-2019, 01:38 PM
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The first few hundred (maybe 1600) or so QHMC were T1 receivers. QHMC also used the round cut. Unclear the distance for the cut the early receivers as I have not seen one.
It makes sense that a T1 would only have one notch.

Rockolas have been reported with letters or numbers on the TH lug. Unclear if a double-digit was used.

For Quality I would have to pull a few and look and see if there were numbers on TH lug. Also, notice the TH lug is the early style.

Edit to add: It looks as if the front ring may have had markings removed. there appears to be a color variation at the rear.
Better pictures of that area would help.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:21 PM
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I believe what you are seeing is where I cleaned it off looking for any markings. I’ll try to get some better pictures posted.
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Old 10-13-2019, 04:44 PM
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I believe what you are seeing is where I cleaned it off looking for any markings. Iíll try to get some better pictures posted.
posted up the new pics you sent..same album i linked to earlier.
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