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Old 11-16-2018, 08:32 PM
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Default Looking for 0-XX Marine rebuilds coming out of the CMP.

I knew of two of these before the CMP pistols were released, but I'm sure there will be more of these coming out soon, so keep an eye out for them.

I have already seen on Facebook the pics of a OB-79 from the cmp, which should be for Barstow 1979.

I will be curious to see what else we will see. This is one of the two 0-68's that I knew of before the release.

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Old 11-16-2018, 09:00 PM
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Here is the thread on this forum:

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=236617

I haven't seen the facebook post.

Dave
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:24 PM
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It will be very interesting to see the serial ranges of these Marine rebuilds.

Even though they could have been acquired from another branch post WWII, the Marines received about 64,000 1911A1's during WWII. So that is a lot of possibilities for rebuilds later on.

Here is the breakdown of the shipments to the Marines according to the docs. So see how your MArine rebuild falls into the large shipments of them to the Marines.

1st Half 1941 0

2nd Half 1941 1500

1st Half 1942 0

2nd Half 1942 1800

1st Half 1943 10,745

2nd Half 1943 9400

1st Half 1944 3020

2nd Half 1944 14,850

1st Half 1945 23,000
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:26 PM
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Also the Marine Corps seems to have distinguished between the 1911 and 1911A1 in the docs, and it appears they might have either converted the 1911's over to the A1 configuration or got rid of 1911's in general for the new 1911A1.

There is a Armorer's account of cutting the A1 Finger relief cuts in 1911 frames around 1950 by the Marines.

So keep a lookout for 1911's with the A1 finger relief cuts for the trigger.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:52 PM
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Great stuff above. Hopefully we will see more good examples from these M1911's that will compliment the Garand and M14 observations to date.

I just posted a summary of the references for the information over on the 1911 forum, so will paste it here too:

It has been published in a couple places, first in the Garand Collectors Association Journal, Volume 18, Number 3, Summer 2004, "The O-66 Rifles" by Jeremy Cheek. It was also referenced in Bruce Canfield's book, The M1 Garand Rifle, page 588.

Initially the USMC rebuilds were M1 Garands marked O-6x (O-65 through O-67 dates have been observed). M14's have been observed starting with O-68, then about 1969 or 1970 the USMC started using OA-7x and OB-7x, versus just the O-6x marking. The OA was for rebuilds done at MCLB Albany and the OB was for the rebuilds done at MCLB Barstow.

The information was provided through interviews with two gentlemen, Mr. Bill Brown and Mr. Richard Moore, who had been employed at MCLB Albany during that time period and had observed the marking applications first hand.

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Old 11-16-2018, 10:12 PM
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I wonder if those two Gentlemen are still around. I would love to interview them. I will reach out to Jeremy and see if by chance he still has contact info for them.
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:34 AM
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Here is another thread from Gunboards. In post #8 Jeremy also talks about some rifles with these markings that he traced from the Marine Corp Museum back to MCLB Albany, and confirmed that rifles still there were marked that way.

https://forums.gunboards.com/showthr...C-quot-Garands

He notes that "I have seen M14s, M1s, M79s and M2 50cals and even one M3 tripod all marked in one of the ways..."

Maybe we can get Jeremy to chime in here.

Dave

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Old 11-21-2018, 11:45 PM
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I received this one from the CMP today...
https://imgur.com/a/PeYZpgr
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Old 11-22-2018, 08:27 AM
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I received this one from the CMP today...
https://imgur.com/a/PeYZpgr
Wow that is neat. A whole new rebuild era. I wonder what the M-B stands for.

Someone said Mangnafluxed Barstow. Which might be very well true.
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Old 11-22-2018, 12:12 PM
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Better penmanship in 1976 then in 1979. Another OB 79 rebuild with the M-B stamp located below the small ordnance wheel. It is interesting that member Peck's OB-76 marked rebuild also has a Benicia Arsenal BA rebuild stamp located behind the trigger.







Last edited by TW56; 11-22-2018 at 12:40 PM. Reason: BA Benicia Arsenal, OB-76 elctro pencil
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