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Old 01-11-2018, 11:50 AM
Ntill Ntill is offline
 
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But the gamers love these matches. Lol
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Old 01-16-2018, 12:54 PM
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As stated above, MM is now an offhand match with M1As somewhat competitive with the AR variants. The real loses are all the other post WW2 semiautomatics including the early M16 types. I will build (yet) another M4 with free float HG and try to improve my offhand...... Good Shooting. ....
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Old 01-16-2018, 01:17 PM
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Want a real match? Let CMP prepare the rifles in class "legal" condition then draw by lots. Just like IROC. That would at least nominally spank the gamers.
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Old 01-16-2018, 01:54 PM
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As stated above, MM is now an offhand match with M1As somewhat competitive with the AR variants. The real loses are all the other post WW2 semiautomatics including the early M16 types. I will build (yet) another M4 with free float HG and try to improve my offhand...... Good Shooting. ....
Ceresco,

i think free float tubes are still illegal, per modern military rules. Right?
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Old 01-16-2018, 02:13 PM
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I wish I knew.....but I feel a lot better knowing that BIG SHOOTER IS BACK!!! Good Shooting. ..
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:50 PM
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As stated above, MM is now an offhand match with M1As somewhat competitive with the AR variants. The real loses are all the other post WW2 semiautomatics including the early M16 types. I will build (yet) another M4 with free float HG and try to improve my offhand...... Good Shooting. ....
Not only "post-war" semis but the WW2 semis as well..SVT, G41/43, AG42b etc.

Still no love for those but do boy we need ANOTHER of those floated tricked out AR matches...
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:18 AM
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Right, should have included them.... Saw three Tokarevs sell at auction for over $1K each recently. It would be fun to see all the pre M16 semi's at matches, but that's not going to happen. Good Shooting. ...
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Old 01-17-2018, 10:55 AM
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Right, should have included them.... Saw three Tokarevs sell at auction for over $1K each recently. It would be fun to see all the pre M16 semi's at matches, but that's not going to happen. Good Shooting. ...
Yup it would be...it really amazes me is when I mentioned all the vintage semis and they need a place to compete..they said "yeah we get lots of comments about them..."

well "duh...DO something..."


*sigh* guess I'm now going to figure what AR to use and work on the offhand like everyone else...
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Old 01-17-2018, 01:11 PM
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CMP could easily do it (create match for all the vintage semi's) without much effort? Make current MM an unlimited AR match (bring whatever AR folks want within trigger and weight limits) and delete the A and B classes in MM. Create a new match to replace the current MM B class guns (add more vintage semi's to the listed including early M16A1/A2) and make it more along lines of as-issued rules.
That is one option but another is to make the MM match a true as-issue match. No match triggers - not float tubes - just military rifles or their clones which use mil spec parts. Of course, now that the door has been opened it won't likely be closed.
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Old 01-17-2018, 04:55 PM
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That is one option but another is to make the MM match a true as-issue match. No match triggers - not float tubes - just military rifles or their clones which use mil spec parts. Of course, now that the door has been opened it won't likely be closed.
Bingo...
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