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Old 10-30-2017, 10:57 PM
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I had a conversion unit. IIRC M261
From my experience plus that of others. The units are so inaccurate, except for trigger time they are useless. No usefull feedback.
When Nordic uppers become a available I'll give them a second try too.

Accuracy is meaningless for cheap practice with the actual rifle you will be shooting. Who cares where the rounds go when the practice is for other factors, not accuracy? Position training, muscle control and conditioning, trigger control (the bigge), breathing control, etc. My CMMG unit is damn accurate for what it is. With the right ammo at reasonable ranges, surprisingly so. If I shoot really cheap Wally World 22LR in it I get cheap results.
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:44 AM
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Accuracy is meaningless for cheap practice with the actual rifle you will be shooting. Who cares where the rounds go when the practice is for other factors, not accuracy? Position training, muscle control and conditioning, trigger control (the bigge), breathing control, etc. My CMMG unit is damn accurate for what it is. With the right ammo at reasonable ranges, surprisingly so. If I shoot really cheap Wally World 22LR in it I get cheap results.
All the things you list could be accomplished by dry firing. Accuracy gives you actual feedback on how well you are performing. Just like firing a centerfire match rifle, but usually cheaper.
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Old 11-01-2017, 03:12 PM
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I had a conversion unit. IIRC M261
From my experience plus that of others. The units are so inaccurate, except for trigger time they are useless. No usefull feedback.
When Nordic uppers become a available I'll give them a second try too.

I used a M261 kit for a few years to practice offhand,
had an indoor range close to the house I owned then,

could get quarter sized groups using a A1 profile barrel at what ever distance the range had, (can't remember how deep the indoor range was, 25yrds maybe, )
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Old 11-06-2017, 08:00 AM
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Default Agree on dry fire

Best my m261 would do is about 3-4 at 25yd. That provided no feedback of my shots were on call. Only good for recocking the hammer. Dry fire practice is a great idea. 61 yr old shooter after 20 year hiatus could use some exercise in standing with +- 10lb Garand and AR.
Do these rifles (M1 and AR) need dry firing devices for extended dry fire practice?
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Old 11-06-2017, 11:22 AM
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Do these rifles (M1 and AR) need dry firing devices for extended dry fire practice?
An M1 and an AR can be dry fired all you want without a device.
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Old 11-19-2017, 02:29 PM
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All the things you list could be accomplished by dry firing. Accuracy gives you actual feedback on how well you are performing. Just like firing a centerfire match rifle, but usually cheaper.
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If you're not getting accurate feedback in live fire it could drive you the wrong way. If you're not looking at the shot holes, then dry fire.
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Old 11-19-2017, 09:07 PM
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I have a CMMG upper, added a float tube. Has about 8,000 rds through it, I couldn't be happier with it. I run CCI std vel in it, does around 3/4" @ 50 yds when I do my part. Initially saw a misfeed about once every 200-400 rds but has gone away now. Have replaced 1 firing pin, running with same 2 20 rd mags I started with. Run it on identical lower as my service rifle with same trigger, so my service rifle does not get filled with the 22 crud.
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