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Old 03-10-2013, 12:50 PM
mech1369dlw mech1369dlw is offline
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Default Question on AP ammo

Couple years back, CMP sold 240 round boxes of AP. It came in 5 round clips, 2 clips per slot, total of 60 rounds per bando. Headstamp was SL 4. Determined to be corrosive. Questions are:
Anyone know the weight of the projectiles? Anyone know what brand of powder was used in them? Can it be compared to something we have available to us now. Good sale price of the projectiles would be? Getting ready to sell stuff to pay off some med bills. To me, it would be easier to sell just the bullets, put powder back in and use 150 FMJ's for myself in my bolt rifles. Thanx for any useful info.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:35 PM
steve ingalls steve ingalls is offline
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Pulled down some SL43 and TW 43 AP awhile back. Dont know what powder was used but bullet weight ranged from 162.2- 164.8 grains.
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:18 PM
Redleg13a Redleg13a is offline
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Nominal weight is 163 grains and probably used IMR 4895 powder but it could be different depending on when it was loaded. WWII ammo is probably 4895.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:23 PM
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IIRC .30 M2AP was loaded with WCC852 powder.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:19 PM
mtn71 mtn71 is offline
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I was thinking about doing the same thing. I have a couple cans of it too, but never shoot any of it because I really don't have any use for AP.

With the insane prices some folk pay for AP bullets, you can probably sell the slugs for as much as you could get for the loaded ammo. The few I've pulled so far have what appears to be 4895. My thought was to reduce the powder slightly, but that shouldn't really be necessary because I'd be replacing a long bearing heavier bullet with a shorter, lighter one. If I get ambitious, I might replace the primers with nc as well. It would make some great ammo I think.

I just haven't done it yet, mostly because it seems wrong to tear down that nice shiny vintage ammo, with the pretty pink lot tags and all.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:15 PM
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Sigman2 has identified the powder, most likely. In October 1944, IMR 4895 and Western Ball powders were standardized for all Ordnance Plant production. There may have been some continued use of the older propellants until they were used up but most 1944 and all 1945 manufacture can be assumed to have one of those powders. They were non-cannister grades, of course.

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Old 03-11-2013, 03:09 PM
mech1369dlw mech1369dlw is offline
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Thanx for the info, guys.
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Old 03-17-2013, 12:41 PM
WyoDutch WyoDutch is offline
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I dug into some crates of components and re-discovered the boxes of .30 AP and tracers I bought back in 2000 from Jeff Bartlett.

The price list he threw into one of the boxes is like a time machine...

30-06 GI LC Match brass pulldowns = 1,000 for $100

.45acp GI Match, once-fired = 1,000 for $55

173 grain M72 match bullets = 1,000 for $100

.30 AP = 1,000 bullets for $150

Gunbroker has a $70 bid for a sack of 50 .30 AP bullets.

Lemme see... $70 for 50 bullets... carry the zero.. multiply.. that gives me $1,400 for a box of 1,000. A profit of $1,250. Heck.. that's better than gold or silver has done in the past 13 years.


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