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Old 01-08-2018, 01:30 PM
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There were originally two types of 8X57. The early WW1 for the Commission rifles was a .318 bullet. The 98K used the S or spitzer bullet which is .823 diameter. I believe that they just shot what they had and let the bigger bullet be swagged down by firing.
The steel cased ammunition was a emergency response to a problem. I would be very reluctant to shoot 75 year old emergency ammo. While the lacquered outside may be fine the inside may be corroded badly. Also the propellant could be anything. The wartime 196gr round was VERY powerful, repeat VERY. Hatcher's Notebook has the German codes that will explain what cased ammunition is. I would get that info first.
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Old 01-27-2018, 04:14 PM
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I have not seen it in a while, but there was also some very nice quality East German steel cased, steel core bullet 8mm. It shot very while in my 98s.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:12 AM
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Some 15 yrs ago I had hundreds of beautiful steel case 8x57 that was in pristine boxes. Made in 39 thru 42 I think.
Pulled some of the bullets and as mentioned in earlier post, there was a lot of fine loose rust and the powder was stinky. Repeat a lot of rust. Since rust is very abrasive, even if the case was strong, it would not be good to fire them down the bore. I sold them clearly marked "for display only contains rust" for 10 cents a round.
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:25 PM
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Thanks for the warning on the green-box commercial Romanian 170gr. I had just stumbled by this stuff attractively priced at $7.95 per box. Seemed a bit too good to be true. Is this the potentially non-chambering type?

Here it is: http://www.southernohiogun.com/ammun...roduction.html
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:39 PM
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The ad says new production from 2013 170 gr 8x57 JS ( the later Spitzer 323 bullet). Should be no rust issues with 5 yr old ammo if stored reasonably. How it shoots is a different matter.
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:58 PM
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Thanks for the warning on the green-box commercial Romanian 170gr. I had just stumbled by this stuff attractively priced at $7.95 per box. Seemed a bit too good to be true. Is this the potentially non-chambering type?

Here it is: http://www.southernohiogun.com/ammun...roduction.html
That is it. Avoid like the plague.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:43 PM
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Thanks, str8liner. I am new to the 8mm and am fixing up an old K98 so this is my first foray into this caliber. I missed the days of cheap 15 cent surplus and now it seems like decent surplus corrosive rounds are 45-60 cents each. I think I will just buy some new PPU 8mm for 75 cents a round at Target and reload the brass.

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Old 02-02-2018, 10:03 PM
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Thanks, str8liner. I am new to the 8mm and am fixing up an old K98 so this is my first foray into this caliber. I missed the days of cheap 15 cent surplus and now it seems like decent surplus corrosive rounds are 45-60 cents each. I think I will just buy some new PPU 8mm for 75 cents a round at TargetUSA and reload the brass.
Pretty much have to do that, or use 30-06 brass to make 8mm. That is what I do with all my excess HXP 30-06 cases.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:16 AM
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Pretty much have to do that, or use 30-06 brass to make 8mm. That is what I do with all my excess HXP 30-06 cases.
Yes, I use an RCBS 15965 to form 8mm cases from 30-06. After forming you just saw off the excess brass at the mouth (while it is still in the die) then trim it and you are good to go.
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:03 PM
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Tyler,
I still run into the 1950’s yugo ammo here in CT. It is always brass cased, berdan primed and corrosive. The corrosive salts dissolve in water. The Germans used ballistol before and during the war for weapons cleaning as well as water. Enjoy the JPS.
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