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Old 12-18-2018, 07:37 AM
joemel12 joemel12 is offline
 
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I need the advise of the forum. I'm looking for a USGI barrel for a 1911 Colt produced in 1914, if possible, to replace the original, when shooting on rare occasion. The current barrel's rifling is a bit weak but very visible and clear of any corrosion. If I have to go after market from a price a standpoint Sarco leads the pack but I'm hearing I'll need a gunsmith to install any aftermarket barrel. She's a family heirloom with provenance back to my grandfather ( grand dad served in WWI as a Cpt. and was allowed to purchase his side arm for service rendered).Yes,I have the receipt.He supposedly fired it frequently afterwards as did my father, I'm 66 and starting to thin the herd to my sons. I know either one will fire her hence the research to find a barrel. I thank you for any help.Try to find an affordable replacement or just pass he on as is?

Joe
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Old 12-18-2018, 09:02 AM
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If it were me, I'd leave it as is to lessen the chance that the original barrel gets lost. It's never going to be a match gun - wasn't meant to be - and should probably have limited rounds through it anyway to lessen the chance of something bad happening. So let whichever son inherits it take it out once or twice a year to put a mag or two through it exactly as his great grandad carried it. It would probably still hit MOG (minute-of-German) at 25 yards anyway.
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Old 12-18-2018, 10:27 AM
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If it were me, I'd leave it as is to lessen the chance that the original barrel gets lost. It's never going to be a match gun - wasn't meant to be - and should probably have limited rounds through it anyway to lessen the chance of something bad happening. So let whichever son inherits it take it out once or twice a year to put a mag or two through it exactly as his great grandad carried it. It would probably still hit MOG (minute-of-German) at 25 yards anyway.

Joe, this note from thebearpack is the best advice you will find anywhere. With the exception of maybe springs and small parts, that weapon is in the shape your grandpa brought back from from France in 1919. It iis a true historical relic. A little research into what unit, and where Grandpa was, will only add significance to it.
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Old 12-18-2018, 11:41 AM
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In spring 1918, the 5th Marine regiment was involved in the fierce battle of Belleau Wood and was given the nickname Devil Dog.The Fifth subsequently participated in the offensive campaigns at Aisne, Battle of Saint-Mihiel and in the Meuse-Argonne offensive. They also participated in the defensive campaigns at Toulon-Troyon, Ch‚teau-Thierry, Marbache and Limey.

Well Joe, if he was a Capt (Co Cmdr?) during this time in the 5th history and participated in these campaigns with that pistol, you are the owner of weapon any museum in the country would like to have. Shoot it a couple times a year and don't touch it.
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Old 12-18-2018, 12:09 PM
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If was me I would not shoot it, it could be damaged and historical value would go to rock bottom Zero. Lots of .45 guns out there the kids can shoot..

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Old 12-18-2018, 12:26 PM
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Scott Gahimer (m1911info.com) wrote a very good piece on why not to shoot a historical pistol. It is quoted in this thread from the 1911 Forum.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=278153

As can be told from the references to the age of the pistols, it was written some time ago, but is perhaps even more pertinent today, especially with respect to a family heirloom.

If you agree with Scott, you may want to print it out for discussion with you children.

Scott is still active in the 1911 community, and is very personable and easy to talk to. I have had several enjoyable discussions with him. You can reach him through his website, which has email and phone info.

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Old 12-20-2018, 08:25 PM
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Scott Gahimer (m1911info.com) wrote a very good piece on why not to shoot a historical pistol. It is quoted in this thread from the 1911 Forum.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=278153

As can be told from the references to the age of the pistols, it was written some time ago, but is perhaps even more pertinent today, especially with respect to a family heirloom.

If you agree with Scott, you may want to print it out for discussion with you children.

Scott is still active in the 1911 community, and is very personable and easy to talk to. I have had several enjoyable discussions with him. You can reach him through his website, which has email and phone info.

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Thanks for posting this Steelap.
I know Scott and the linked post above has wise advice. Zevo- did you read through this? I'm not trying to pass myself off as some sort of expert, but the folks in the link are the experts on vintage pre WW2 1911's.

I don't have any sort of vested interest in the OP shooting or not, just hoping to pass along good informed consent for him to ponder.
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Old 12-21-2018, 07:54 AM
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You have a wonderful legacy piece that you can pass along to your sons. If you havenít already done this I would suggest that you get as information about your grandfatherís tour of duty with the Marine Corps. You can request his DD214 separation papers, replacement medals and ďany and allĒ records included medical related to your grandfather from the National Archives at this link https://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records . Once you get that information it should give you a good timeline of his time in the Marines.

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Old 12-21-2018, 07:58 AM
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Thanks for posting this Steelap.
I know Scott and the linked post above has wise advice. Zevo- did you read through this? I'm not trying to pass myself off as some sort of expert, but the folks in the link are the experts on vintage pre WW2 1911's.

I don't have any sort of vested interest in the OP shooting or not, just hoping to pass along good informed consent for him to ponder.
Yes sir. That is an excellent explanation. There were one or two minor items in some of the posts I donít agree with, but that, in my opinion, is a great presentation. There is no denying that with any firearm the next shot could be the last, than that chance is affected by many factors, some easily determined and many not.
The only thing I would suggest is that, regarding parts wear, and the known slide stop and similar areas on 1911s, a respectful owner/shooter will pay attention to these and react accordingly. Shooting until it fails with no regard to wear and condition is foolish.

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Old 12-18-2018, 04:34 PM
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Barrel not a problem, but the slide or frame can crack with a lot of shooting. Leave it alone.
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