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Old 08-13-2011, 08:13 PM
Kart29 Kart29 is offline
 
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I've heard that ammo for a Garand shouldn't be loaded to typical .30-06 levels. Yet, I've looked at my Lee reloading manual and don't see any special loads or restrictions listed for a Garand. Is there any load data tables anywhere that is specifically designed for ammo to be used in a Garand? Where can it be found?

Should the Garand really be fed ammo that is lower in power than SAAMI maximums?
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:30 PM
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Old 08-14-2011, 02:34 PM
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check hornady manual
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:50 PM
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M1 Garand loads.............

http://web.archive.org/web/200006200...rpo/M1load.htm

Aloha, Mark
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Old 08-18-2011, 03:34 PM
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do ya have a set for 308 garand/m1a also?
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:00 PM
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Should the Garand really be fed ammo that is lower in power than SAAMI maximums?
Yes.

At the time the Garand was developed, 30-06 cartridges for the US Army were loaded to the M2 specification. This was a 152 grain bullet to 2740 feet per second.

IMR 4895 was developed for this specification and was used almost exclusively throughout WWII. Each batch of 4895 was tested to determine how much to load to achieve the proper velocity.

A close modern equivalent to this is 48.5 grains of 4895 under a 150 grain bullet. Personally, I lower that to 47 grains. Varget and IMR 4064 are other common powders used to approximate the M2 spec. Loads can be found around the internet.

If you load too heavy you risk damaging the Garand's gas system. Too light and you don't cycle the action. The ammo you buy at the sporting goods store is too heavy. If you look in your Lee book you will see that most of the start loads for 30-06 with a 150 gr. bullet are around 2700 fps. If you go with other powders that should be your maximum for a Garand.

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Old 08-18-2011, 04:31 PM
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Around the Internet when the subject of Garand-safe 30-06 loads is brought up there are usually four sources quoted:
1) The Hornady book
2) The Speer book
3) The NRA recommendations
4) The John R. Clark article in a past Issue of American Rifleman.

I don't like or own the Hornady book. However, I have copied the pertinent info for the powders I use:
Hornady Manual 150 gr Jacketed bullet
IMR 4895 46.4 gr. 2600fps
Varget 46.2 gr. 2600fps
H335 46.4gr 2750fps

I do own, and don't like, the Speer book (I do like their bullets).
The only load data they give is for their match 168 gr. HPBT bullet. I don't have it handy.

The NRA data was referenced earlier in this thread. For some powders:
NRA data 150 grain bullet:
IMR 4895 - 49.0 grains
IMR 4064 - 50.0 grains
H4895 - 49.0 grains
BLC-2 - 49.0 grains
H335 - 49.0 grains

You can find the Clark article by Googling: "American Rifleman" Garand Clark. It's a good read and probably the most informative source of all.

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Old 08-18-2011, 05:02 PM
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Man, spend a few bucks!
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Old 08-19-2011, 09:00 AM
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J.C. Garand designed the rifle to fire a bullet weighing 173 gr. The Army used that weight bullet for match competition. Stick with 4895, 4064 and 3031. I am posting this just to expand the bullet choice from just the M2 load. I have never found the 150 gr. load to be competitive at any range. The 168 gr. Serria bullet was the gold standard for decades.

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