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Old 12-03-2017, 01:22 PM
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I am new to Garands. I received my first one from CMP in October, a service grade Springfield. I am interested in any information you can give me about this rifle. I looked up the date of the serial number, 407356, and found the receiver was made in the middle of December 1941. The barrel is dated 7-45. The rest of the parts appear to be a mix of later dates. The main question I have is what does the electric pen marking on the side of the receiver mean? It appears to be "S ? 11-67". I assume this means it was reworked in November 1967. Is the first part recognizable? I think the first letter is an S, but I cannot make out the second letter. Also, what does "REP 18A" mean?

Photos can be seen at the links below.

Thanks for the help.


http://www.lessparks.net/m1/img_0001.jpg
http://www.lessparks.net/m1/img_0002.jpg
http://www.lessparks.net/m1/img_0003.jpg
http://www.lessparks.net/m1/img_0004.jpg
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:30 PM
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Pictures 2 and 3 show the rifle was overhauled at Springfield Armory in November 1967.

"SA 11-67"
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:35 PM
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Hello,

I am new to Garands. I received my first one from CMP in October, a service grade Springfield. I am interested in any information you can give me about this rifle. I looked up the date of the serial number, 407356, and found the receiver was made in the middle of December 1941. The barrel is dated 7-45. The rest of the parts appear to be a mix of later dates. The main question I have is what does the electric pen marking on the side of the receiver mean? It appears to be "S ? 11-67". I assume this means it was reworked in November 1967. Is the first part recognizable? I think the first letter is an S, but I cannot make out the second letter. Also, what does "REP 18A" mean?

Photos can be seen at the links below.

Thanks for the help.
I think that is a SA 11-67. Bad job by the guy doing it. Also think that the 7-45 barrel was put on in 1967.

REP 18A is the heat lot for the receiver when it was made in Dec 41.
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:14 PM
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Welcome to the group of M1 addicts. Pretty sure this will not be your last. The more time you spend here the worse the infection will get.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:50 PM
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A Pearl Harbor month rifle. Very cool. Congrats.
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Old 12-03-2017, 04:26 PM
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And rebuilt at Springfield Armory just a year before it closed it's historic doors as the Nationals first Armory/Arsenal. Nice M1 to have!
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:18 PM
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Default I am seeing 11-63 - hard to explain why, but I will try...

Guys,
You are going to think I am crazy, but first we need to agree that the inspector for Springfield had handwriting that s*cked.
Many of the etches dated are barely legible.

I have examples of 1963 that look very similar to the OPs so I am going to call it 11-63.
Usually the barrel date can help with this call, but not in this case.

The last Springfield rebuild date I have verified and recorded is May of 1966.

Springfield made some of the most beautiful rebuilds with the Olive colored park, but the inspectors handwriting makes dating difficult without dated examples with replaced barrels to help verify.

Nice rifle OP so I hope you do not mind if I add it to my database.

Rob

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Old 12-03-2017, 05:37 PM
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Guys,
You are going to think I am crazy, but first we need to agree that the inspector for Springfield had handwriting that s*cked.
Many of the etched dated are barely legible.

I have examples of 1963 that look very similar to the OPs so I am going to call it 11-63.
Usually the barrel date can help with this call, but not in this case.

The last Springfield rebuild date I have verified and recorded is May of 1966.

Springfield made some of the most beautiful rebuilds with the Olive colored park, but the inspectors handwriting makes dating difficult without dated examples with replaced barrels to help verify.

Nice rifle OP so I hope you do not mind if I add it to my database.

Rob
For comparative purposes here is a SA 12-65 rebuild that is on a IHC SG that I bought at South Store. Rob, you already have this one.

https://s8.postimg.org/l9ma17l1x/20171117_220946.jpg
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Old 12-03-2017, 06:36 PM
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Guys,

Nice rifle OP so I hope you do not mind if I add it to my database.

Rob
Please do and thanks for the info. I can see the 63 in the light of bad hand writing.
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Old 12-03-2017, 07:01 PM
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My original intensions were to get a service grade Garand and re-barrel it and do what ever else needed to be done to make it a really good shooter. After learning when the receiver was made, all I could envision was the workers at Springfield Armory working long hours to build as many rifles as possible due to Pearl Harbor. I assume the receiver date does not add much in value, being that it is a service grade rifle. What would you do, leave it as it is or make it a project gun? I could always buy another SG to tinker with. Please don't twist my arm. LOL

This barrel has a TE=4 and ME=2. Even so, it still shoots better than I do. I am really enjoying shooting it.
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