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Old 12-15-2012, 02:18 PM
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I'll preface this with a disclaimer...if you're in for Magnas trip on Wednesday, you might not want to read further. Chris does like to surprise people, and it'd be easy to take this report as the glass being half empty; when in fact, it's actually half full, in my rose tinted lenses.

While it's always a great time, the pickings certainly have been better. Not to say there wasn't a lot of nice stuff, but certainly not what most of us are used to. I was supposed to bring the kids along, to pick out a receiver to build for their grandfather, but mom had other ideas, and scheduled them for appointments, so they couldn't go. I was a little sore, but what can you do? I'll probably bring them on the next trip, maybe in January, depending on what gets released (IHC?!?).

So I'll get the bad news out of the way first...there are no Service Grades, except for the Specials and Sniper rifles, of course. The selection of Field Grades is very limited, and there weren't any surprises when they opened the doors...the stuff that isn't listed on the website, but is sometimes available in person.

That being said, if you don't mind thinking outside the SG box, there were still a lot of very nice rifles, although some needed a bit more TLC than others.

THE GOOD: Lots of Snipers, Specials, Kimbers, Mod 1 Navy B/R, and regular B/R. Lots of nice looking M14 stocks (although I forgot to get a picture). While the selection of FGs was limited, there were some damn solid guns in the mix, lots of them. The NM rifles were outstanding, much better than described.

THE BAD: No SG, not many FG, and it looks like the Navy B/R are getting picked over a bit. WRAs are all pretty rough. No WRA barrels, No cartouched stocks that I saw, no WW2 B/R (since I bought the only one I saw), no slant cut op rods, lockbars, IHC stocks, single slot gas plugs, grooved stock furniture...not a lot of the really rare or unusual stuff.

THE UNUSUAL: Lots of .22 and Bolt gun odds and ends, B/R and such, from Krags to M1917s. A few nice serial number oddities.

A little more detail:

Service Grades: Absolutely nothing except the SG Specials and SG Sniper rifles.

WRA, HRA and SA Field Grades: One full floor rack of HRA, both sides. 3 sections of the wall racks of WRA FG, exactly 10 SA FG when they opened.

The Winchesters were all so so, although if you're looking for a specific S/N range, pretty much everything was represented, from low 6 digits to high 2.5Ms...no Win-13s. Nothing had WRA barrels, a couple had rough, sanded WRA stocks, and I didn't notice any WRA bolts or trigger groups among them. They were a lot of the same guns left over from summer. Mostly mixmasters with SA and postwar parts. My eyes weren't their sharpest today, but I swear a couple of the WRAs had '56 barrels...might be worth the purchase to restore one of the 6 millions from the last release, but don't quote me on that.

The SA FG (all 10 of them) were a mix of WW2 and a couple Post War guns. A couple had DAS stocks, but most were in sanded, generic, GI stocks. The first one I picked up was the one that went home with me, a very late war with original barrel (5-45 1.5 at the muzzle/3 at the throat), correct bolt and gas cylinder, and a pretty good GI stock, with matching handguards. There were a couple WRA surprises, like a bullet guide, safety, clip latch, and gas cylinder lock. The rest of the parts were all SA, and a mix of WW2 and postwar...gotta look up what's correct for the late war guns, as they used a lot of the same parts as the postwar guns.

The HRA FG is where I think Chris will make the most people happy. 1 floor rack, both sides, and all of them pretty close to correct. Every one had an HRA barrel (except for one lone LMR barrel that gauged about 3 at the muzzle), all were in GI stocks, mostly HRA stocks with decent DAS stamps. Lots had HRA sights, front and rear. Strangely, about 3/4 of them had SA bolts. I didn't break any of them down to look at the internals or op rods, sorry. The best thing, though, is that almost every one had a tag that read 2-2+ at the muzzle and 3-4 at the throat...and we all know that the actual reading is usually a bit lower. About 1/3 were Greek Black, the rest were decent original finish. Most of them were 5.5 and 5.6M S/N range, although there were a handful of 4.7M, and one 5.4M in original finish that tempted me, but I'd already grabbed the SA and tagged it at the counter (FWIW, there was also a 5.4M in the HRA SG Specials, probably a good investment, as they're pretty uncommon).

Rack Grades: 10 WRA rackers, decent condition, for a restoration project, in a mix of GI and foreign wood.

Specials: The CMP Specials were a mix of S/N ranges, from 6 digit to postwar. The SG Specials were beautiful, as usual, with a 4.7M HRA and a 5.7M SA in the mix. A few had some handling dings on the stocks, fwiw.

Snipers: Some nice project guns in the lower grades, some beautiful guns in the higher grades. It seems like the lower graded guns had more Greek Black, replacement wood, or worn barrels, with original park, GI wood (all postwar), and like new barrels in the higher grades.

Kimbers: Some beauties on the racks. While a lot of them had the razor cuts, some of the wood was absolutely breath taking, with complicated grain with great contrast. I think I took more photos of Kimber wood than Garand wood! These were getting a lot of attention, I don't think they'll be around too much longer.

Barreled Receivers:

The CMP put together ones were pretty much what they've always been, mostly WW2 receivers, from 6 digit to late war, almost none were postwar. I think there were about 25 or 30 of them. I didn't look at the barrels/bolts, but the last few times they were what was expected...postwar SA barrels and bolts, in new condition.

The Mk2 Mod 0 there was only one in the store. It had an SA receiver with a heel stamp so weak I could barely read it, and a WRA barrel...the first WRA barrel I've ever seen at the NS. Sadly, the barrel was pretty rough, and the crown looks like it was done with an axe. I don't know if it could ever be a good shooter.

The Mk2 Mod 1 had a lot to choose from. About a half dozen had the hand guards epoxied in place. The Throat readings are written on the side of the receiver, I saw as high as 7 and as low as 1. All were SA receivers, from 6 digit to postwar. Most of them looked pretty good, and one customer was buying a LOT of them. I doubt these will last too much longer, either. About 50 when the doors opened, maybe 40 when I left at 11 AM.

There were a lot of .22 barreled receivers, and a fair amount of Krag and 1917.

Odds and ends: Greek Leather sllings in a bin at the back of the store, a great sling for $5. They probably had a few hundred. M14 stocks, as I said before, some with really striking grain, although they need a bit of TLC. No .223 ammo, although they had ammo cans for sale, $5 for good, $3 for rusty. I bought 5 of the good ones, since my kids think they're cool.

Free sweat shirts with purchase, I got a couple.

The bare receivers were in decent shape, I picked up a couple to build with a couple WW2 barrels I have. One high 2 million, one high 3 million.

And as always, met some nice people, and had a great time.

Photos:

WRA Rackers, all of them:


WRA FG, all of them:


Kimbers, one side of the rack (both sides are stocked):


The poor, lonely, Mk2 Mod0 with the WRA barrel, I couldn't see the PW proof, if there was one:






The Mk2 Mod1s, lots were polished under the barrel, like the AFPG rifles were supposed to have been:


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Old 12-15-2012, 02:22 PM
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The SA FG, all of them. I grabbed the one on the left, it was the first one I picked up.


NM rifles. Beautiful wood, none were 6M, lots of them were 5.3M. All were SA:


Mann Devices and a few odd B/Rs:


A little Kimber porn, some gorgeous wood on these:



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Old 12-15-2012, 02:30 PM
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And last, but not least, what followed me home:

A pair of Grade B receivers, one for me, one for the father in law:


And the winner is...the nicest of the 10 SA FG on the racks, a 3.81M SA with original barrel, original finish, and a fair amount of correct parts. There were also a couple nice surprises, like a WRA safety, bullet guide, and gas cyl lock. The stock is very nice, just dirty and greasy, and it needs a light sanding to remove scratches...it'll probably be the one I put on the FIL's receiver build. Once I clean it up, it'll be mostly correct, I've got the right NFR stock, op rod, lockbars, and internals, the rest is pretty close to correct:





Goes to show you you can't believe everything you read on the tag!




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Old 12-15-2012, 02:31 PM
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Great report!!
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:49 PM
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Major bummer, considering I'm one of the Magna buyers. Looks like it'll be next year's Christmas present instead of this year's.
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Old 12-15-2012, 02:55 PM
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Major bummer, considering I'm one of the Magna buyers. Looks like it'll be next year's Christmas present instead of this year's.
It's a little disappointing to see such a weak selection, but trust me, there's a LOT of very nice HRA FGs. Bores are great, lots of correct parts, and DAS stamped stocks that are an afternoon of elbow grease from being beautiful. Unless your heart is set on a WRA or SA, or an SG, there are still plenty to choose from. At least half of them were a bath away from being SGs.
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:03 PM
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Nice report!

It is sad, the NS is the only store I could ever drive and and at times it really does seem like the get the short end of the stick. Yes Im thankful they are there and I truly do appreciate the CMP but it def seems like there is a lot more inventory at the south store than at the north.

Glad you went home with a few good pieces though!
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:04 PM
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Dave, it looks like they added a few more NM rifles to their inventory, did you get a chance to go through them? Were there other NM parts on the rifles besides the obvious barrel?
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Old 12-15-2012, 03:37 PM
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Dave, it looks like they added a few more NM rifles to their inventory, did you get a chance to go through them? Were there other NM parts on the rifles besides the obvious barrel?
I took a quick look at all of them, but I was mostly looking for consecutive S/N (to one of mine), or rare parts. At least a few had NM rear sights, NM gas cylinders, NM op rods (although almost everything seems to, lately). I didn't check the stocks out too closely, to look at the bedding, but a lot of them had stickers on them (the round CMP ones near the buttstock), so I'm assuming those are the stocks they competed with. I didn't notice if some had significantly more NM parts than others, though. The wood was pretty nice on all of them.

I probalby should have looked more closely, but I'm actually afraid to touch something that's worth as much as my car, haha.

Every trip I make, the first thing I do is check for consecutive S/Ns...and I breathe a big sigh of relief when I get through the SG M1Cs and NM rifles and find nothing!

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Old 12-15-2012, 03:53 PM
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Thanks Dave for your great report.
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