modern military M1a

[fartblossom1953]

I'm still wanting to keep shooting my m1a. I just weighed it and it's 9 lbs 1 oz with all gi parts and the fiberglass GI stock unmodified. I'm not going to REMOVE the issued GI components (except for Smith early receiver) just to make weight. That is not AS issued to the military. The civilian models don't even have the disconnect mechanism so it's pretty obvious the original weight was a few oz over 9 lbs.

[mac1911]

Originally Posted by fartblossom1953

I'm still wanting to keep shooting my m1a. I just weighed it and it's 9 lbs 1 oz with all gi parts and the fiberglass GI stock unmodified. I'm not going to REMOVE the issued GI components (except for Smith early receiver) just to make weight. That is not AS issued to the military. The civilian models don't even have the disconnect mechanism so it's pretty obvious the original weight was a few oz over 9 lbs.

Most likely.... CMP made no attempt to see what the commercial offerings where coming off the line with. This is clear when CMP gives Springfield Armory Inc a clear variation to the weight rule? Why just SAI?
Like i said my rifle now makes weight.
The "similar" portion is a complete mess. Im waiting on my friend to weigh his tricked out socom. i eould love for him to show up to VT. See how they decide to classify him.

[HMC]

At the risk of "poking at the bear(s)" .... I have a stock SAI loaded M1A with the walnut stock. Pretty sure it will come in above 9.0 lbs. As I understand things I could try to shoot her as is in MM, but may or may not be able to depending on how the inspector feels about the stock SAI "exemption". I'm considering changing out the walnut stock for a composite stock and wondered what a good source might be? Appreciate the help!

[rickgman]

Originally Posted by HMC

At the risk of "poking at the bear(s)" .... I have a stock SAI loaded M1A with the walnut stock. Pretty sure it will come in above 9.0 lbs. As I understand things I could try to shoot her as is in MM, but may or may not be able to depending on how the inspector feels about the stock SAI "exemption". I'm considering changing out the walnut stock for a composite stock and wondered what a good source might be? Appreciate the help!

HMC, Firstly, I would recommend actually weighing your rifle. There is enough variation that weight might not be an issue. If you do go to a polymer stock, a GI stock might be the best bet. They are stiffer than the SAI polymer stocks. Good luck.

[ceresco]

I purchased a M1A "scout" last year. It came with a light weight SA inc black plastic stock. The accuracy was terrible. I put it into a GI bedded stock (cut out for the infrared night sight) and the accuracy improved greatly. The plastic (fiberglass??) stock weighs 2# 3oz complete with rubber butt pad. A standard GI issue wood stock (complete) was 2# 14oz, for comparison. FWIW. Good Shooting. ....

[lite-box]

SA Inc standard with GI bbl in SA Inc heavy profile wood stock w/ leather sling 9.04 lbs, Same rifle in GI synthetic with filled selector no sling 8.01 lbs

Bula standard in GI synthetic filled selector no sling 8.04 lbs

Digital fish scale.

[Mountain]

Next topic: Sights

Last year I was bounced to Unlimited for having a NM front sight on my M1A. Does anyone know the logic that allows any size front sight post in an AR / Class A, but not for a M1A / Class B? Also, what could possibly be the logic behind allowing rear sight adjustment finer than MOA for Class A but 'standard sight configuration' for Class B?

[rickgman]

Originally Posted by Mountain

Next topic: Sights

Last year I was bounced to Unlimited for having a NM front sight on my M1A. Does anyone know the logic that allows any size front sight post in an AR / Class A, but not for a M1A / Class B? Also, what could possibly be the logic behind allowing rear sight adjustment finer than MOA for Class A but 'standard sight configuration' for Class B?

It is my understanding that NM front sights are now allowed on M1A's since that this the standard sight on new M1A basic rifles.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by rickgman

It is my understanding that NM front sights are now allowed on M1A's since that this the standard sight on new M1A basic rifles.

I've heard the same rumor, but can't find anything in writing. I'd want to have something definitive for back up in case they want to bounce someone again.

I heard firsthand that if someone brought an A2 AR to Perry and it was 1 oz over 7.5 lbs, it would get bounced to unlimited.

No offense, but there are lots of 'understandings' and little clarity on rules that are IMHO too open to interpretation.

[ceresco]

One M1A shooter with a new, standard (walnut) SA M1A was placed in "unlimited" due to weight. I don't think that should have happened. The shooter on his left was shooting mostly Xs with his scoped service rifle.....same class. I shot my "purpose built" 7.5 lb A2 and won the (really) old guy class with an embarrassing 278. Good Shooting. ...