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Old 01-15-2020, 08:54 PM
ZvenoMan ZvenoMan is offline
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Originally Posted by smag View Post
I wonder what happened to M16 and M14 serial # 000001 both were in the old infantry museum at Fort Benning. The big new museum there does not have those two rifles!!!!!!!

Where did they go?

The National Infantry Museum has 10s of thousands of artifacts. Only a few thousand may be on display at a time. And they do have a pretty slick exhibit covering the entire evolution of the M16 from the late 50's through the present, I haven't checked the specific serials that are in that display, there are 8-12 rifles from the early AR 10 through the latest M4s.

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Old 01-16-2020, 11:03 PM
S99VG S99VG is offline
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Maybe they are being sold by Dr. Evil.
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Old 01-23-2020, 05:34 AM
lonegunman lonegunman is offline
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I remember when #1 turned up many years ago. The original owner was a Texas rancher who bought it on a hunting trip to Colorado or some such thing. His son owned it and it was a truck gun for many years. He took it to a gun show and was chased out by liars and thieves trying to buy it for next to nothing.

#2 I thought turned up in Pennsylvania or something. After the article on #1 came out, the owner of #2 went public.

I fail to see why they have this type of value. They do have value, but nothing near $2 mil.
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Old 01-23-2020, 06:26 AM
BSAGuy BSAGuy is offline
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Interesting. I agree with others that anyone considering this would do a thorough hands-on inspection. Plus, I would assume that there is a fairly small well known circle of buyers for rifles like this (if they are legit) and that the guns would not be sold via GunBroker.

Just my humble opinion.
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Old 01-23-2020, 04:28 PM
Whitpusmc Whitpusmc is offline
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I have a friend who won a rifle at auction and returned it because of exactly that issue.

Auction photos were actually good enough to hint at that issue but it was much easier to verify in person.

Wasn’t a very high dollar rifle either.

Originally Posted by jakhamr81 View Post
Not on 70s. I'm trying to find some discrepancies but it's tough with the lack of pics. #2s bluing looks too good to be 83 years old to me. I've seen rifles that have had their serial numbers ground of and re-engraved so now I'm suspicious of just about everything. I'd like to meet someone that would bid that kind of money blind like this.
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Old 01-23-2020, 08:01 PM
Louisxllx Louisxllx is offline
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Although later, I bought a 1938 Model 70 in 1981 that looked much like these two. A Captain at Ft. Benning had someone bed it in Bisonite from the rear of the reciever all the way to the front of the stock. The barrel was set deeper than the widest part and was mechanically locked in. A 220 pound SSG was standing on a bench trying to pull the barrel and action out of the stock.

I didn't know anything about pre-war, but I saw the clip slots. I asked them to stop trying to pry it apart and bought it for $250. Took it to Hook and he turned it into an across the course target rifle. I left the original (bedded) stock and barrel with Hook.

During my time in Hook's shop, a handful of old shooting buddies of his came by and sold him pre-64 Model 70 target rifles for $250-300. The good ol' days.

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Old 01-24-2020, 08:13 AM
howardhuge howardhuge is offline
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1.7M for a Rifle...hehehehehe a fool and their Money are soon parted.
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