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Old 04-14-2019, 03:21 PM
brandx70 brandx70 is offline
 
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Default Large stock cartouche question

So I've seen and heard conflicting information about the very large (7/8" ?) cartouche found on some early carbines. I always thought it was for early quality hardware, but according to Riesch's book it was for some early inlands. I'm trying to figure this out because I have one, and it happens to be marked with both RMC and IO stamps in the sling well. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Old 04-14-2019, 03:43 PM
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If I remember correct, the large Ordnance stamp used at the QHMC plant was larger than the Ordnance stamp used at the Inland plant. Measure it close and let us know.
And there are RMC stocks with a hand stamped I, Is the O stamped or something in the wood?
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Old 04-14-2019, 05:34 PM
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If I remember correct, the large Ordnance stamp used at the QHMC plant was larger than the Ordnance stamp used at the Inland plant. Measure it close and let us know.
And there are RMC stocks with a hand stamped I, Is the O stamped or something in the wood?

Correct and I have 6 early Quality Hardware large cannon stocks. Rick B
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:29 PM
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Do you know when QHMC changed to the small ordanance wheel?
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:54 PM
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It definitely is the large wheel, bigger than the inland cartouche. The inland wheel measures around 5/8", the one on this stock is around 7/8". It is faintly marked RMC in the middle of the sling well, but is also clearly marked IO in the upper part of the sling well.
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:05 AM
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If you could post a picture of the Cartouche and slingwell that would be helpful . Rock-ola stock for Inland would be marked RMC I , I have never seen one marked IO . Inland cartouche would be oriented more towards the center of the butt stock were as the larger Quality Hardware Cartouche usually about an inch of the I-cut .
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Old 04-15-2019, 06:49 AM
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http://imgur.com/5FmdnIn
http://imgur.com/eNSBCZU

The RMC is very faint, but it shows up. I'm wondering if the IO stamp is real, everything else makes sense with it being QHMC.
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:55 AM
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The IO has been faked. I am also wondering about cannons to as they seem thin. Rick B

A picture of the best one I have. Not one has an IO in the slingwell/ all are RMC

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Old 04-15-2019, 08:57 AM
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Sized down a bit.

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Old 04-15-2019, 04:54 PM
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From what I see (wish there was more) I believe it to a legit early large wheel Quality Hardware acceptance stamp. I have one, but the detail is nowhere as nice as the one in this thread. Also, it's a shame someone messed with this stock by adding the IO. I'm guessing Bubba thought it was an Inland cartouche since and added the IO at some point.
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