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Old 02-18-2018, 09:24 PM
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Ok........... just so I have all this straight:

There is a new type of wood on the RACK grade M1's called Hackberry and people are worried about it cracking.......................

But noone has confirmed that with Boyds?

And noone has actually shot a Garand with the "new" wood to how sound it is or not?

So noone has any idea (first hand ....."for reals") if this wood is good or not?
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:36 PM
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It seems these are "Ceremonial Grade" stocks. I guess it depends on how you define ceremonial......
https://www.dupagetrading.com/produc...-m1-stock-set/
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:00 PM
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It seems these are "Ceremonial Grade" stocks. I guess it depends on how you define ceremonial......
https://www.dupagetrading.com/produc...-m1-stock-set/
Well are the ones the CMP are putting on Rifles missing the "holes" in the buttstock?

Because Dupage states......."There are no holes drilled in the butt end of the stock for cleaning materials........"

That would answer it..................
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:06 PM
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:07 PM
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If CMP is using $40 retail stocks sets to build complete rifles Iíll be surprised and very disappointed.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:11 PM
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They get the hackberry stocks from Boyds.

Here is a 2013 post about some Legion rifles.
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=124528
Post #8 #10 and are relevant

But I can't imagine the price is much different then Dupage. These are cheap, the finish is HORRIBLE, but we can forgive look with a rack grade.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:15 PM
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Moose:

You started this thread by saying..... "Getting a lot of reports at the stores having rack grade rifles in the red Hackberry stocks.........."

Then when asked how many you've examined, you reply, ".....Looked at more then a few. But as long as they have hackberry, I wouldn't call them very functional..."

So are you basing your comments on first hand observations or not?

Next, again, who or where have these stocks been tested and found to be "non-functional?"

Look I have no issue with you or anybody suggesting the CMP sells "woodless" rifles or not.
But if your argument is these new stocks are @#$$%, where is the proof?
That's all I'm asking....................


Ok, Boyds it is............. and do they have the "hole-cut-outs" in the butt? so different from the Dupage ones?
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:20 PM
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Because this isn't the first time CMP has used these stocks, they have been on the Legion issued rifles for AGES. A few years back, there was a big long thread about them and that Orest said they were not fit for use on a FIRING rifle (that is one that does not fire blanks). They also have showed up on the drill rifles before too.

I can't dig that thread up. I will keep trying.

But for now, even Dupage has them marked CEREMONIAL and they only cost $40. You get what you pay for.

I am not the only one who has concern over these stocks anyway.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:26 PM
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Here is another thread.
Guy thought they were birch. he said there were no holes in the Boyd stocks for the cleaning kit ether.

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=97031


However, this is the first time the Hackberry has shown up on a rack grade that I know of. I and others were less then impressed when we heard about it.

It is just like the orange tinted service grade wood. We voiced our displeasure and the issue was solved.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:41 PM
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Because this isn't the first time CMP has used these stocks, they have been on the Legion issued rifles for AGES. A few years back, there was a big long thread about them and that Orest said they were not fit for use on a FIRING rifle (that is one that does not fire blanks). They also have showed up on the drill rifles before too.

I can't dig that thread up. I will keep trying.

But for now, even Dupage has them marked CEREMONIAL and they only cost $40. You get what you pay for.

I am not the only one who has concern over these stocks anyway.
Cool Thank you!
I'll look for Orests comments as well.
So the Dupage and the CMP ones both lack the holes.........Cool.
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