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Old 01-17-2018, 02:11 PM
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CMP could easily do it (create match for all the vintage semi's) without much effort? Make current MM an unlimited AR match (bring whatever AR folks want within trigger and weight limits) and delete the A and B classes in MM. Create a new match to replace the current MM B class guns (add more vintage semi's to the listed including early M16A1/A2) and make it more along lines of as-issued rules.
That is one option but another is to make the MM match a true as-issue match. No match triggers - not float tubes - just military rifles or their clones which use mil spec parts. Of course, now that the door has been opened it won't likely be closed.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:55 PM
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That is one option but another is to make the MM match a true as-issue match. No match triggers - not float tubes - just military rifles or their clones which use mil spec parts. Of course, now that the door has been opened it won't likely be closed.
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That is one option but another is to make the MM match a true as-issue match. No match triggers - not float tubes - just military rifles or their clones which use mil spec parts. Of course, now that the door has been opened it won't likely be closed.
I think that's how it started out (original intent), but it has morphed into something totally different, at least for the AR equipment group. Many of us had or built correct M16A2's to compete in under the original rules.
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If you have followed the conversations, you know that the lack of consistency (and competency) at inspections is part of the problem. If you are having problems, I suggest pressing the issue and asking for a senior armorer or the match director. There are some real horror stories. Last summer an "inspector" removed the stock from a sniper rifle and DQed a drill rifle, 1903 1941 USMC repro.......before the match. I built the rifle. It passed inspection the year before and there was nothing wrong with it. Good Shooting. ...
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Old Yesterday, 10:22 PM
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I think that's how it started out (original intent), but it has morphed into something totally different, at least for the AR equipment group.
I could not agree more. The camel stuck his nose under the tent and the rest is history.
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If you have followed the conversations, you know that the lack of consistency (and competency) at inspections is part of the problem. If you are having problems, I suggest pressing the issue and asking for a senior armorer or the match director. There are some real horror stories. Last summer an "inspector" removed the stock from a sniper rifle and DQed a drill rifle, 1903 1941 USMC repro.......before the match. I built the rifle. It passed inspection the year before and there was nothing wrong with it. Good Shooting. ...
They DQ'd the rifle because it was built from drill rifle or other issue? Removing a stock before the match would be a pretty crapy thing to do to someone. My rifle can take several rounds or more to settle down after the stock has been removed.

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If you have followed the conversations, you know that the lack of consistency (and competency) at inspections is part of the problem. If you are having problems, I suggest pressing the issue and asking for a senior armorer or the match director. There are some real horror stories. Last summer an "inspector" removed the stock from a sniper rifle and DQed a drill rifle, 1903 1941 USMC repro.......before the match. I built the rifle. It passed inspection the year before and there was nothing wrong with it. Good Shooting. ...
I donít think a rifle should be torn down prior to competing unless itís to fix a trigger that does not make weight,or some obvious item like exposed bedding compound.
If rifle is questioned it could be examined after the match if score deemed it necessary.
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I also had a sniper rifle dq for Trigger weight which was repaired by the armored only to find out that they were using the 3.5 weight initially.My fault in not noticing,thinking they knew what they were doing.Spring was replaced with a 3.5.Mine was a 2.5.I have left it that way as it made no noticeable difference.
I would like to see the weights marked say white 2.5,red 3.5 and yellow 4.5
Or some such variation so itís obvious what is being applied.
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