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Old 11-23-2018, 04:22 PM
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I switched to Varget for my M1, 03 and No. 4 Lee Enfield (.303 and 7.62) about a year ago. It meters better in my Redding measure than 4064 and 4895. I don’t weigh charges. My No. 4 holds the 10 ring on the MR target at 600 yards, under 2 MOA.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:07 AM
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Varget works very well for my 136gr FB .308 loads. Shot this 10 rnd target with one of my M14 type rifles a couple of days ago at 100 yds. The flyer out .75 at 7 was my fault, not the equipment or the load.



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Old 12-01-2018, 12:01 PM
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Shot a little more Varget this morning.



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Old 12-03-2018, 07:47 AM
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I'm a fan of Varget, but I am also a fan of IMR 4064. 41.75gr of 4064 is what is used in 118LR, so if its is good enough for the US's top marksman in combat, then its good enough for me. As for not being for gas guns, thats not true. If that had any truth the US military would not be using so widely in it its precision firearms that are not bolt guns.
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:08 AM
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I'm a fan of Varget, but I am also a fan of IMR 4064. 41.75gr of 4064 is what is used in 118LR, so if its is good enough for the US's top marksman in combat, then its good enough for me. As for not being for gas guns, thats not true. If that had any truth the US military would not be using so widely in it its precision firearms that are not bolt guns.
I believe M118LR used a number of different powders including RL-15 and others over a period of time. What does a great job in the bolt rifles doesn't always perform well in our gas guns.
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I believe M118LR used a number of different powders including RL-15 and others over a period of time. What does a great job in the bolt rifles doesn't always perform well in our gas guns.
I agree what works in one doesn’t always work in all, but I know it worked very well in all my issued gas guns. I also know it still works great in gas guns that are using it today by those who I am still friends with.

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Old 12-03-2018, 11:32 AM
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The M118LR rounds I broke down had 43.5 grains of (maybe) RL-15. This is very accurate in my bolt guns, but is too stiff for (my) gas guns, in my opinion. If I were still wearing a uniform and shooting one of Uncle Sam's gas guns, I might think differently.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:39 PM
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I agree what works in one doesn’t always work in all, but I know it worked very well in all my issued gas guns. I also know it still works great in gas guns that are using it today by those who I am still friends with.
I shoot plenty of M118LR that is currently available.
Best of any commercially available fodder for sure.
Best there is for the M40 repros as far as I can tell.\
All my M14 type rifles love it but my 136 gr loads work out best for my applications.
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Old 06-02-2019, 07:45 AM
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Welp. After several months of diligently processing all the 30-06 & 308 brass in the house. I started the assembly phase. I have 5 different types of 150gr. .308 slugs that I inherited. Decided to load 100 rounds for the 1903a3. Went with Greek HXP (once fired brass), CCI#200 primers, & 45gr. Varget (weighed charges). Went with the COAL from the manual per the slug being used. Took guts out of 1903a3 bolt and cycled a few. Everything seems good to go. Have enough spitzers, spire point and hollow point to do another 200 like that for the 1903a3.

I have CCI #34 7.62 primers, 150 fmj bulk pack, and pounds ofvarget left for the M1/M14.
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Old 06-05-2019, 01:04 PM
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As with any of the newly conservative production loading charts, it all depends where you look. No one is suggesting you even get close to a max load. One should always start low and work up and watch for pressure signs in the particular rifle you are loading for. " Common Sense ".....
More recently, accurate testing has been performed using piezoelectric pressure transducers (for true psi readings) and comparing traditional "pressure signs" rifle cartridges and corresponding chamber psi readings. In many cases, SAAMI maximum pressures were greatly exceeded before any common "pressure signs" were evident. A 150 gr jacketed .308 bullet is not a generic item. Bullets vary between brands, and even within brand lines. Substituting another brand bullet when using published (= extensively tested) load data can create pressures higher than SAAMI max, and not exhibit the physical signs.
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