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Old 09-20-2019, 02:30 PM
Hanyabull Hanyabull is offline
 
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Default Could use some help dating my slide

Hey all, I could use some help dating my slide. Normally, I could just use the Rampant Colt to date the slide, but I can find no trace of it anywhere on the slide. Bright light, magnifying glass, you name it. I can't find it. The roll marks on the side are somewhat shallow, so I assume the rampant colt was refinished into oblivion. Or maybe this slide just never had it. No idea. Came straight from the CMP.

It does say, "Model of 1911, US Army" on the other side. It's got an "S" on the back above the pin. And it's got what looks like an "H" or maybe an "I" underneath the side if you take it off.

Surprisingly, coolgunsite doesn't have any information on the "Model of 1911..." for Colts. Any help is greatly appreciated.

https://imgur.com/a/OPMfAgz

https://imgur.com/a/Uia0c7q
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:02 PM
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Maybe a little rubbing with a piece of white chalk might bring out a faint mark?
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:19 PM
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post a pic of the model 1911 font on the other side
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:56 PM
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post a pic of the model 1911 font on the other side
Dang, I don't have a photo of that. Didn't think to take one since it looks exactly like all the other examples of it I've seen.

This is not a picture of my pistol, but the roll mark looks exactly like this:

https://imgur.com/a/xxBK6oP
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:00 PM
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Maybe a little rubbing with a piece of white chalk might bring out a faint mark?
I haven't tried that. I'll buy some chalk on the way home from work today lol.

I literally cannot find a single trace of the Colt logo, but from what I read, it's very possible that the logo simply poofed after it was refinished (my slide definitely doesn't have the original finish).

The only thing that strikes me as odd is most of the pistols I've seen still have the logo. To completely eradicate it is definitely not common.
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:32 PM
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Dang, I don't have a photo of that. Didn't think to take one since it looks exactly like all the other examples of it I've seen.

This is not a picture of my pistol, but the roll mark looks exactly like this:

https://imgur.com/a/xxBK6oP
Are you sure about that? Early slides had serifed letters on both sides. The model 1911 pic you supplied has no serifs but original pics do. I'm looking at Clawson and I suspect your slide is pre 1916
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:40 PM
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Are you sure about that? Early slides had serifed letters on both sides. The model 1911 pic you supplied has no serifs but original pics do. I'm looking at Clawson and I suspect your slide is pre 1916
Actually, I totally forgot I had photos of the other side of the slide taken the day I picked it up.

https://imgur.com/a/xWQHJfU

Does this help?
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:04 PM
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I also have another question. In this picture:

https://imgur.com/a/Uia0c7q

You can see a peen mark on the slide. The rear sights were pushed to the side slightly, so the rear sight doesn't line up with the line on the top of the slide.

My guess is, at some point whoever had this pistol, needed to move the sights for accuracy reasons.

My question: I plan on shooting this pistol. Since everything about this pistol might be different than when that sight was originally moved, do I run a risk of damaging these sights if I have the sights adjusted? I don't plan on reselling, but I also have no plans to buy new sights.
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:07 PM
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Are you sure about that? Early slides had serifed letters on both sides. The model 1911 pic you supplied has no serifs but original pics do. I'm looking at Clawson and I suspect your slide is pre 1916
Ah, you are right on those serifs...

After googling that, I think I found my slide. 1916.

In fact, it also explained the "S" I have on the back of my slide. I think my mystery is solved!
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:03 PM
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Yes, that slide is not ideal for much shooting.

edit, moving the rear sight shouldn't hurt it but note that the slide has inferior metallurgy and no heat treatment, cracks can occur at any point from the next round on..

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