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Old 07-04-2018, 07:22 AM
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What was the adjustable strap with snap clip used for? I know the side loops are for grenades but the explanation for the strap isn't clear. Thanks, Eddie
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Old 07-04-2018, 07:26 AM
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What was the adjustable strap with snap clip used for? I know the side loops are for grenades but the explanation for the strap isn't clear. Thanks, Eddie
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I'm sure we hooked snap clip up to a ring type thing on the suspenders to take some weight off the belt.
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Old 07-04-2018, 07:39 AM
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K.P. , Thanks, that makes sense. Have a Happy Independents Day and Thank you for your service. Eddie
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:54 AM
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Kansas Poster is absolutely correct.

Both the newer nylon M1967 and ALICE gear, which replaced the cotton canvas M1956 web gear, retained the metal D rings on the combat suspenders which in part was for the strap on M56 universal ammunition pouches still being in use. The older cotton canvas M56 web gear was still being issued with the newer nylon gear coming into the supply system. Army Reserve units were still issuing the M56 gear well into the 1980's.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:20 PM
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I think the 1956 LBE (load bearing equipment in Army-speak) was designed for the M14 era and the idea borrowed from the Brits. As a deployed line infantryman during that period, I thought it was the worst in my lifetime. Four full 20-rd mags and four frags precariously hanging from two little belt clips and straps on the frontal waist area. It was supposed to be balanced by an equally heavy butt-pack likewise suspended from the rear shoulder straps. A lot of mass flopping when running, and interfered with proper low-crawling. Who wants to crawl and squeeze thru brush and jungle with 2-4 frag handles and pins exposed at waist level? Oh well, enuf grousing from an old soldier.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:56 AM
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The M1956 web gear set did have it's shortcomings as most gear does. It was however a vast improvement over the earlier WWII-Korean War era gear. The wire hook belt attachment used on the WWII-Korean era web gear did allow for easy on and off of gear, but the way the gear hung on the belt really allowed for the canteen, first aid pouch, entrenching tool etc..to bounce and "flop" around. The M1956 gear with it's belt attachment clips held the items higher on and much more tightly against the body. I do agree the "butt pack" when loaded down is rather heavy to be hanging on the back of the belt. The nylon ALICE gear that replaced the M1956 gear was pretty much identical with the component items being made of nylon instead of cotton canvas.
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:25 PM
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The early nylon M1967 equipment also used the extra strap with a clip.

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Old 07-10-2018, 08:21 PM
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when did they stop using the M1 Garand cartridge belts I have one that as far I I can make out is dated either 1956 or 1958
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:54 AM
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Since the M14 wasn't issued until 1957 and National Guard Units still used the M1 into the 1970's I would say they were made at least into the early 60's. Eddie
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Old 07-11-2018, 11:56 AM
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Since the M14 wasn't issued until 1957 and National Guard Units still used the M1 into the 1970's I would say they were made at least into the early 60's. Eddie
There are lots of pouches out there that hold either two carbine 15-round mags or two 8-round enblocs. Not the same as the so-called stock pouches:


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