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Old 09-06-2017, 05:11 PM
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If the rifle wasn't shortstroking with the standard catch, it won't with an extended catch.

With the same force from the magazine, the heavier catch will move up slower, letting the BCG out run it.

Are there any extensions upward towards the rear of the scope, enabling the shooter to reach over? While more mass, the mag would be pushing it down instead of pulling it up. Then again, maybe that would cause premature locking...
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Old 09-06-2017, 08:18 PM
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If the rifle wasn't shortstroking with the standard catch, it won't with an extended catch.

With the same force from the magazine, the heavier catch will move up slower, letting the BCG out run it.

Are there any extensions upward towards the rear of the scope, enabling the shooter to reach over? While more mass, the mag would be pushing it down instead of pulling it up. Then again, maybe that would cause premature locking...
If the rifle wasn't shortstroking with the standard catch, it SHOULDN'T with an extended catch.................

If it does, there is an issue with the extended catch and your rifle..........

With the same force from the magazine, the heavier catch will move up slower, letting the BCG out run it.

Unless the BCG isn't "running" past it.......... to then get caught by it.............. which means the BCG needs to move further back so it can be properly stopped by the catch. A lighter one BCG would do that.

This is a simple way of narrowing the issue down: (Read the answer on short cycling)

https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/res...faq.html#short

If you really do have a short cycle issue then the easiest approach is to lighten the BCG in an attempt to get it further back in the cycling..............
The easiest way of doing that is to lighten the BCG, not make it heavier..........

Or if your rifle worked fine without any "BAD" attachments to it............ maybe consider not attaching anything bad to it............ (sorry couldn't resist)....................
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:00 PM
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How does the catch affect the recoil system?
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Old 09-06-2017, 11:17 PM
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How does the catch affect the recoil system?
I don't understand your question.................. and by "recoil system" do you mean functioning of the rifle or?
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Old 09-07-2017, 08:22 PM
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I believe he means if the buffer does not travel all the to the rear, into the tube, the catch will not be able to engage with the front of the bolt, holding the bolt carrier in its rear-most position (err...'bolt locked to the rear'or 'open').

By playing with different weight springs, and weights of buffers/bolt carrier groups, you would affect the speed and distance the BCG and buffer will thrown into the buffer tube against the spring....which might be part of O/Ps problem.

Here's a question, are you using a SLED when this occurs or standard mag? I have had a SLED that was putting so much pressure upwards on the bolt catch that it was pretty beat up by the bolt passing over it during ejection.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:17 AM
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Reworded: If the bolt comes back far enough for a standard catch, why wouldn't it with an extended?
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Old 09-10-2017, 05:47 AM
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Old 09-10-2017, 04:57 PM
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Reworded: If the bolt comes back far enough for a standard catch, why wouldn't it with an extended?
Well.......... isn't that the side question here?
Some people have no issues with an extended bolt catch, some do........ including you at times?

So isn't that the side question that got brought up here in this thread?

So... yes that is the question here...............

And that is what White Oaks test answers............ it helps narrow down the possible problem areas...........
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