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Old 09-14-2017, 11:57 PM
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Default 03 A3 Issued with free floating barrel's or not ?

Hi Fellow posters,

I have two CMP 03-A3's one is Smith Corona & the other is a Remington.

They were both bought sometime ago. Both have new barrels installed with in the last year.
The S C is free floating, the Remington had about 4-6 pounds of up pressure at the bayonet lug on the stock. The original barrels were worn out & the selling price reflected that fact.
Both rifles shoot well at 100 & 200 yards now (Have not had the time to get serious yet.) but I would always like to do better.

Still ironing out some small problems with the stock - the finish, correcting mismatched parts on the 70+ old wood & steel rifles that bring a big smile to this old shooter face.

I know each rifle is some times a law unto it's-self, but I would rather not try to reinvent the wheel.

(1) What have you seen on your stock rifle?

(2) Do you recommend clearing the front of the barrel channel & let it float as most new rifles from the factory are?

Thanks for your help in advance,
broom
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Old 09-15-2017, 10:50 AM
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It sounds like the Remington is set up correctly so SC should be the same. I don't think you can free float an 03-A3 in military configuration. Good shooting.......Just noticed that this is posted in two places.

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Old 09-15-2017, 05:19 PM
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Hi Nate,

Thanks for the reply. I have to take both rifles out & shoot them side by side.
As I recall the Smith Corona shot very well also.

The Remington was only re-barreled about a week ago. It is in a early stock with two brass pins rather then the later style stock reinforcements.

I'm old as dirt & still act like it's X mas day.

Enjoy life,
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Old 09-16-2017, 01:41 PM
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Default The original bedding spec. ...

for the 1903/A3/A4 rifles called for the barrel to be free of the stock channel at all points except at the foreend tip, where the barrel was supposed to bed with a few pounds upward pressure. Additionally, the barrel should not be bound by the handguards or bands.
However, the original stocks have often shrunk and/or warped to some extent, and the military standard bedding cannot always be achieved. I have found that, so long as the receiver bears correctly, the barrel can be free-floated and still shoot with at least equal accuracy.

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Old 09-16-2017, 05:40 PM
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HI Mike,

Thanks for the reply.

The rifles were re barreled & some incorrect parts replaced. Making them as close to issued shape, with the cash available.

It's been about 4-5 months since I shot the Smith Corona, as I recall it was a shooter too.
Maybe the (S C) stock is warped at the bayonet mount or it could have been altered sometime in the past 70 + years.

It's not a big deal to push a match book cover in there, to give it some UP pressure. "IF" it shoots better, I can add a small bedding block of wood or build one up with some Marine-Tex.

Good shooting,
broom
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Old 09-25-2017, 12:02 AM
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Hi All,

I fired both 03-A3's side by side with the same ammo. The Remington (Pressure at tip) shot a tighter group!
The Smith Corona was just a tad larger 1/4 to 3/8's. Shot three groups with each rifle - same results.
Your results may be different.
As soon as I have time,I'll adjust the stock for 4 to 6 pounds up pressure.

Good wish's to all & thanks for your help,
broom

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Old 09-25-2017, 12:09 PM
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That sounds great, the ten ring on the 200 yd sr target is 7 1/2" so either of those rifles will easily do that. Just start fine tuning your zeros and do some matches. Good shooting......
Joe
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Old 09-25-2017, 03:59 PM
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Hi Joe,

Hope to get to the repair job, later this week.

I really enjoy shooting the old wood & steel rifles & pistols over the new plastic wonder firearms.
It's not that hard to get a nice group at 100 or 200 with iron sights.
I was hitting a steel gong at 320 & 440 yards four out of five times with both rifles. Not too shabby for a guy aged 76!

I'm sure "WE" have all seen the shooter's with three sets of sights or scopes on a rifle & has a accuracy problem at 25 or 50 feet.
I hope this next statement does not offend anyone.

How some people make a major issue about the BIG KICK of a 223 with or with-out a muzzle brake & a limb-saver butt pad, makes me laugh all the way home from the range.

I try to have a Mosin Nagant M-44 in the truck, with a few heavy ball rounds to show them a little about recoil!

Thanks for the reply,
broom
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:23 PM
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No offense here, i am 72 and had back surgery last week.
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Old 09-25-2017, 11:12 PM
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No offense here, i am 72 and had back surgery last week.
Hi Sir,

Hope you heal up FAST & get back to your normal activity's.

Best wish's to you & yours,
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