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Old 09-18-2019, 06:23 PM
rekkert rekkert is offline
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Didn't mean to steal the thread,
thanks for that information BQ97 !
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:47 PM
milwaukeeshaker milwaukeeshaker is offline
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Yes there is, I just figured this thread would cause a "slippery slope", and there would be all kinds of "M1A1" carbine receivers showing up, with no paperwork, but claims that CMP said it was.

Originally Posted by 6 Ring View Post
Is there no difference between anyone calling an Inland a M1A1 and CMP calling an Inland a M1A1?
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:35 AM
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First, as a M1A1 collector for over 60 years, I'd tell anyone to buy a Inland mfg CMP carbine only and don't chase the M1A1 fog bank. That said, a barreled action with CMP certificate stating M1A1 , no stock or hardware , to me is a pass. Yeah I know it has the CMP certificate but a M1A1 is a complete M1A1 and if I am going to pay the money that M1A1 demand, I want the rifle.

So what do you have if you don't have the complete rifle..? I wonder what you collectors think on this ....the bbl action with certificate will never be original so you are facing $1500 or more for wood / hard ware to "restore" it. To many, they prefer to say making a weapon "correct" rather than "restore " it......well, you can split hairs all day but fact sure is, it ain't "Original". 2 price tiers: Original, Restored / Made Correct.

As many of you know, a M1A1 can be a sink hole for money. Its great to own a bbl action with CMP cert that states M1A1 but one better watch his pennies on what he chooses to do with such a bbl action.

I close with this: the safest and easiest way to get into M1A1 carbines are those with post war rebuild marks on the wood. Those stocks can have any bbl action in them and be entirely "Correct" for what they are... post WWII rebuilds. No one in Garand Land worries over a post war rebuild, why should carbine land do otherwise ?

M1A1 carbines : its a quagmire .
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Old 09-19-2019, 02:32 PM
cali201 cali201 is online now
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toss it in a repro m1a1 stock along with the paperwork having CMP saying it is an M1A1 and have a real confusing carbine on hand lol. Or sell it to Sam-T-Bob and have him sell it on Gunbroker with that repro stock as a CMP certified M1A1 (just kidding but you know he would).
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Old 09-21-2019, 09:37 PM
vagrant vagrant is offline
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Originally Posted by rekkert View Post
It came to the CMP as an M1A1 with the stock and arsenal
paperwork a dozen(or more) years ago, it came to auction as a barreled
receiver, when packed for shipment the paperwork caught
up, "M1A1" is how the serial number and certificate list it.
Originally Posted by BQ97 View Post
My records show serial number 146328 was among the 550 M1A1 carbines returned from Greece in 2007. My notes show as it was received, the stock was cracked and missing the wire portion. That's probably why it was sold as a barreled receiver.
And that right there makes all the difference about this exact "M1A1". It's documented as 1 of 550 returned from foreign action in M1A1 form. The CMP said it matters (thankfully). It's historical chapter didn't disappear because it was removed from an incomplete and damaged stock.

The serial is also shared as documented/preserved on the internet and I thank the owner for posting about it. Very interesting history. With Brian's statement as someone who viewed every M1A1 returned in that shipment maybe there's no longer speculation about why it is listed as an M1A1. This is another facet of it's history preserved.
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