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Old 02-11-2018, 07:27 PM
SFCDave SFCDave is offline
 
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Arrow LEAD Triangle Research

Guys,

In my continuing efforts to research LEAD rifles I am attempting to see if there is any correlation between the numbers (presumably an inspector number) seen in the LEAD triangles and the rebuild date of the rifle.

I'm asking those of you with LEAD rifles that have the triangle to please post a pic of your triangle along with the rebuild date. This will help us understand how many different QC numbers there are and also help determine if there is a pattern between QC numbers and rebuild dates.

A couple of mine have unreadable dates but I'm hoping that one of you may have a legible one that is similar so I can narrow it down.

Thanks for any assistance you may provide.


12-65 (QC 262)

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6-66 (QC 262)

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5-65 (QC two digit unreadable)

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5-66 (QC unreadable)

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9-65 (QC 119 I think)

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10-65 (QC two digit unreadable)

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9-64 (QC 262)

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Old 02-12-2018, 03:30 AM
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Default I'll look to see what I can find

Dave,
I can go through my records for a few examples.
Biggest problem is that the majority of the ink stamps are not clear enough to easily make out the numbers.
Still worth looking to see what can be found.

Rob
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:33 PM
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Rob,

You are correct....many times it is hard to tell what the numbers are. I have found that clear pics of the triangle will sometimes enable you to see enough of the number to identify it...need to take some better pics of the ones I have posted.

If nothing else, maybe we can tell if it is a two or three digit number.

Alright guys, I know a bunch of you have LEADs....stop bogarting the pics.

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Old 02-14-2018, 09:17 AM
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Dave,
After looking thru my files I only find the same three stamps you have identified. I find 262, 119 and a blurry 2-digit looking stamp.
With over 300 rifles in my database (with pictures) only a small percentage even have the triangle. Of those most cannot be read clearly.
Those that are clear enough to be identifiable appear to be in a minority, for sure.

Rob

I will see about tying those to rebuild dates and add that info here.
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Old 02-14-2018, 11:33 AM
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In january, I received what appears to be an unissued Winchester LEAD 11-65 with a triangle and an easily readable 119 on the rebuilt stock. I will try posting pictures later if that would help.

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Old 02-14-2018, 08:14 PM
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In january, I received what appears to be an unbiased Winchester LEAD 11-65 with a triangle and an easily readable 119 on the rebuilt stock. I will try posting pictures later if that would help.
A pic would be great! Thanks for playing.
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:59 AM
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The idea of tying the QC stamp to specific rebuild periods by inspector number is an interesting though.
So I went thru all my files of LEAD rebuilds that were submitted to me mostly by the membership here.
The vast majority had the triangle stamp, but due to the nature of the stamp there were only a small percentage that were clear enough to make out the inspector numbers.
I was never able to identify the 2-digit numeral, but there were a number of stamps that were obviously only 2 digits, so lets call it the 2-digit stamp for now.
In order for this to work, we have to make a somewhat dangerous assumption. We have to assume the stock and the rifle were together since the rebuild.

These are the numbers combined with the dates of the leg etches:

119 - 2-65, 3-65, 5-65, 6-65, 9-65, 10-65
262 - 9-64, 12-64, 3-65, 6-66, 9-65, 11-65, 12-65
2-digit - 5-65, 6-65, 9-65, 11-65

On many of these there were multiples per month.
From the above you can see there is significant overlap between the inspector numerals.

Not making any calls on this yet, but do think it is interesting

Someone out there has a 2-digit stamp that can help us put that unkown to bed, I am sure.

Rob
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