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Old 05-19-2019, 09:58 AM
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Default 180 grain Garand Safe load

I have a ton of cheap 180grain bullets I would like to use.

I found Hornady has loads for 178gr bullets. Data close enough if I keep the charge low (which I intend to do anyway).

I would prefer to use 748, BLC2 or RL 15 as I am loading on a 1050 and plan to run a poop load of rounds.
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Old 05-19-2019, 11:07 AM
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These are loads from Hodgdon's site for powders usable in the Garand. These are not Garand specific loads, and the site has other powders. W748 was not on their list.
http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

Case: Winchester
Twist: 1:10"
Primer: Winchester LR, Large Rifle
Barrel Length: 24"
Trim Length: 2.484"
Bullet Weight
180 GR. SIE SPBT

Starting Loads Maximum Loads
Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure

Hodgdon Varget .308" 3.300" 44 2,533 41,900 CUP 47 2,668 50,000 CUP

IMR IMR 4064 .308" 3.300" 45.5 2,550 48,900 PSI 48.7 2,700 58,200 PSI

Hodgdon BL-C(2) .308" 3.300" 44 2,456 39,200 CUP 48.5 2,634 48,100 CUP

IMR IMR 4895 .308" 3.300" 45 2,555 49,500 PSI 48 2,680 56,800 PSI

Hodgdon H4895 .308" 3.300" 41 2,427 38,100 CUP 46 2,638 48,800 CUP
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Old 05-19-2019, 11:50 AM
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Starting loads with any of the three powders mentoned will be safe and OK for standard M1s. You may not like the recoil with a 180gr bullet, but no reason not to try it. Good Shooting. .
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Old 05-19-2019, 11:55 AM
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Thanks guys.

I will mostly be using a shooting rest as I am not recoil friendly.
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Old 05-19-2019, 12:29 PM
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Alliant doesn't show RL-15 in its load recommendations for a 180gr bullet.
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...aspx?gtypeid=2


Speer 180 gr SP
Case
Minimum OAL
(inches)
Bbl Length
Primer
Powder
Charge Weight
(grains)
Velocity
(fps)
Notes
Print
Winchester
3.16
24
CCI 200
Reloder 19
59
2,640
-
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Winchester
3.16
24
CCI 200
Reloder 22
62
2,721
-
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Winchester
3.16
24
Fed 210
Reloder 16
55.7
2,791
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Old 05-19-2019, 01:21 PM
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Don't really understand your question, if you have one. The Hornady data seems to cover what you want to do. 178 data is fine for 180.
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Old 05-19-2019, 01:40 PM
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Don't really understand your question, if you have one. The Hornady data seems to cover what you want to do. 178 data is fine for 180.
Yeah, thatís what I thought but wanted to get opinions and info on other data available. Would hate to ruin a nice Garand.
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Old 05-19-2019, 09:34 PM
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10-12gr Red Dot for the recoil cautious. Visually confirm each charge.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:46 PM
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In Hodgdon's data, Varget, IMR4064, and IMR4166 were the most consistent performers. The Hodgdon print manual reveals the powders whose maximum listed loads have the highest CUP and PSI (get nearest the SAAMI MAP) are the ones whose pressure variation was least, letting them get closer to MAP without going over. That's not how MAP is used in ammunition manufacturing, where it is the not-to-exceed average peak pressure for ten rounds, but powder companies often list combinations of bullets and powder that are sub-optimal to allow the handloader to use what he has on hand so they don't take those to the MAP fearing some may exceed SAAMI's MEV (Maximum Extreme Variation) allowance. The ammunition manufacturer selects an appropriate powder initially, so he's not so likely to be dealing with that problem.

Hodgdon doesn't list 748 for bullets over 150 grains in the .30-06, which suggests it doesn't behave appropriately with them.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:58 AM
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I have a ton of cheap 180grain bullets I would like to use.

I found Hornady has loads for 178gr bullets. Data close enough if I keep the charge low (which I intend to do anyway).

I would prefer to use 748, BLC2 or RL 15 as I am loading on a 1050 and plan to run a poop load of rounds.
I have used all 3 powders in 30 caliber reloads (not Garands) but the one I'd use for a Garand is your BLC2. That said, you might develop a good load for 300 yd shooting. Not sure of type of bullet your 180 gr is so can't comment if its got 600 yd shooting potential.
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