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Old 06-06-2019, 06:59 PM
Orionsbeltp3vx31 Orionsbeltp3vx31 is offline
 
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Default USGI National Match M14 stock ????

So guys I was recently left a USGI M14 stock among a bunch of other stuff. I was looking at it closer yesterday and realized it might be something more then a standard stock. I wanted to know your thoughts and what you may think itís worth? The stock has a 6 digit serial number in the channel with what appears to reddish bisonite bedding. The bedding shows it was bedded for a rifle with a rear lug. The front furrel has be pin punched and grounded. It has a thin metal magazine liner that has been bedded into place. Looked the serial number up and it came back to a M14 built in 1960.

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Old 06-06-2019, 07:20 PM
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IMO only has value for the rifle it was bedded for
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Old 06-07-2019, 11:58 AM
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It's an interesting stock. It appears to be a standard M14 stock (not originally made for a NM rifle) that was probably bedded by an armorer (not SA) using Micro-Bed (not the best choice for a M14). Rear lug government M14's are not common (the Marines had them and the Army had very few). It raises a lot of questions.
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:30 AM
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It's an interesting stock. It appears to be a standard M14 stock (not originally made for a NM rifle) that was probably bedded by an armorer (not SA) using Micro-Bed (not the best choice for a M14). Rear lug government M14's are not common (the Marines had them and the Army had very few). It raises a lot of questions.
were all rear lugs to the same size and style?
did the Army and or Marines do the work or did the have SA (gov) do it for them?

did SA Inc, Armscorp, or any of the other commercial makers use the same pattern, size, and style rear lug?

likely just a standard stock modified for a competitor's rear lug receiver.
may or may not have been done by any Branch of the Service, or well known M14 smith, or even Bob in his Garage

we will likely never know
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Old 06-18-2019, 01:47 PM
Ted Brown Ted Brown is online now
 
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There is an actual military specification for the rear lug, part number 9352637. One of the big (or small differences depending on how you look at it) is the size. GI lugs were specified to be .50-.01 in height and only .50-.01 in depth. They were 1.350-.01 in width and tapered to 1.300-.01 on the bottom.

As it happens, most commercial rear lugs are larger at about 5/8" high and deep. Most commercial lugs are also tapered at least 2 degrees front and back where GI lugs are straight. The government drawing does not indicate drilling for a screw. The Marines pretty much pioneered the use of lug guns. I believe the Army built very few and the drawing dated 1986 (from USAR&DC, not SA) came late in the overall development of the M14 NM rifle. I don't recall ever seeing an actual lugged Army or National Guard rifle. 1993 was the last year the Army and NG used the M14 for advanced marksmanship. The Marines stretched it one more year to retain it's 1000 yard capability.

I have a small number of lugs that are 1/2" x 5/8". Contact me if any of you are interested in obtaining one.
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