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Old 06-24-2016, 08:28 AM
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Sort of takes the entire purpose of CMP away . It would be nice if all shooters could hold the black but there is a reason the targets are as big as they are. Also if your not allowing non members to play in the cmp games your not helping the cause one bit.
Now if your going to have electronic targets that can only be used by qualified club members for anything but sanctioned cmp matches that's fine.
You said "hold the black". I said "if you can't hit a SR black bull at 200 you don't belong on them.". Quite a difference when one reads it.

Also, so you can rest easy, any of our club members can currently come out and begin/shoot our matches, under the CMP safety rules, with just about any type rifle. We encourage that. So a guy with an AR can shoot with us (CMP) in a JCG Match... I never mentioned, nor came close to suggesting
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if your not allowing non members to play in the cmp games your not helping the cause one bit.
As most likely understood when they read my post, my comments were in reference to not leaving KTS targets "up" and "available" for the general membership to shoot at, unsupervised. I would think to do so 98% of the civilian ranges/clubs in the country would result in damage and unwanted expense. This is the reason any club I've ever been to takes down their wood competition targets/frames. The only thing left on the Range might be steel targets.

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So, a set of targets dedicated for use on a range that has a target storage shed on or near the target line could be installed or taken down in about the same time necessary to set up current target boards that are used. No sensors to remove and reattach, no calibration required for each target, or each installation, just place the targets in the carriers and connect them to each other and the power/data communication system.
- Thanks Bryan. This is what I have witnessed at TMP & Butner and was planning on. It's good for others to know as well.
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Old 06-25-2016, 06:22 PM
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Dear Mr Target,

What is the latest update on the wireless comm system damage and eventual failure at OKC? To clarify for those not familiar, the targets worked great until wind blew something into one of the routers(or whatever they are) breaking the antenna. Mark Johnson promised improvements would be made to the system to prevent this from occurring again.

1) Specifically what if any equipment changes have been made?
2) What is the current price for a single system?
3) Has a kit price been established? Many of us don't need a completely built target frame, just the components.
4) Has the option for a lessor computer been established?
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:24 PM
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At the Oklahoma Games we did have a very successful week, we took a mobile set of targets to the games at the Oklahoma City Gun Club in April, and fired over 30 relays of competition without any issues. Our wireless radio system was damaged at some point late on the next to last day of the matches and we had to cancel a relay and modify the course of fire for the final day, but there were over 400 complete courses of fire that were fired on the targets, scored electronically, posted to Competition Tracker and completed without anyone having to work in the pits during firing. Future games matches use of the targets will include hard wired data cable for all matches to alleviate the possibility of radio damage/failure. The next use of the electronic targets is scheduled during the Western Games in Arizona.


In answer to your questions:
1. The wireless system that we use/sell has not been changed. We still trust the radios and other components to work as designed and specified. The example given was caused by equipment damage not failure. The Pelican case lid housing the radio and the signal distribution and converter boxes was closed inadvertently crushing the antenna and damaging the radio. It is designed to be closed during use, but we like watching the little lights that tell us everything is working and we had it open and the radio removed from its place in the case.
2. A single target system for use at 100-300 yards, our H3A Target Systems – 4 ft target - same as used at our 200 and 300 yard lines at Talladega - are $4,350 each. This is a complete system including our all weather monitor. Additionally you would need the electronics for the firing & target lines that would be as much as $7,350 (completely wireless), so basically ~$50,000 gets you a ten lane system. A fixed (permanently installed) target line could reduce that cost, as well as permanent cabling for the data from the target line to the firing line(s). It is much easier to put together an estimate when the application and installation specifics are provided.
3. There has not been a kit price established, but we have discussed this with KTS as a future option. The kit would include the components to build a "complete" target just as we sell them. Our components, if you mean sensors, are designed to be used in the complete system - frame mounted sensors, target rubber, scoring rubber, thermal shields, face plate, target electronics - and would not be useful if not built into the target. There are systems available that use external sensors, they require repeated installation, lengthy calibration, and adjustment - our sensors are not designed for that type installation.
4. Yes, our systems can be used with a laptop PC, or one of our monitor options. We don't recommend the use of a PC with our high power systems because of the concussion involved. Our monitors are designed to be used on the firing line and are engineered to withstand the concussion and the impact of rifle shells as they are ejected from the actions.

For more specific target information or pricing options send an email to cmptargets@thecmp.org or bparris@thecmp.org .
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:31 AM
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Will there be a display unit at Camp Perry this year? A Q&A and demonstration session would be great. Seem to me that most of the competitors at Perry have influence at their home ranges and are the one pushing for electronic target systems.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:27 AM
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There will be KTS Electronic Targets installed on Petrarca Range in time for the National Matches. There will be rifle targets at 100 yards, and pistol targets at 25 & 50 yards. There will be CMP staff available to discuss the target systems on display, operation, capabilities and answer questions. They will also be available to be fired upon at the completion of firing on selected days, there will be a calendar published soon of the available days and times. After the National Matches the targets on Petrarca will be available for open public shooting one day a week, we are finalizing those details and will publish them soon as well.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:10 PM
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The electronic targets on Petrarca during/after the matches is great news. Could you give us an idea as to where to look for the update? CMP e-newletter maybe?

Thanks!
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:02 PM
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The update will come out in CMP Shooter's News and via e-mail to our subscribers. I will post it here as well, or at least a link when it is published.
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Old 07-21-2016, 03:25 PM
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Petrarca Range is operational, see the article at this link: http://thecmp.org/cmp-makes-history-...ge-dedication/
Information about the operating hours for the remainder of the National Matches can be found here: http://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-t...etrarca-range/
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:32 PM
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Petrarca Range is operational, see the article at this link: http://thecmp.org/cmp-makes-history-...ge-dedication/
Information about the operating hours for the remainder of the National Matches can be found here: http://thecmp.org/competitions/cmp-t...etrarca-range/
There is an error/goof on the caption for the picture of the targets.
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Petrarca Range contains 10 of the electronic targets: three for pistol and five for rifle.
3 + 5 = 8 What happened to the other 2?
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:26 PM
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There are 10 firing lanes, the first five are dual purpose and can be used at 25 or 50 yards for pistol, or 100 yards for rifle. So, there are a total of 15 targets of which 10 can be in use at one time. The caption reflects from the Open House on Thursday when there were 3 of the pistol targets and 7 of the rifle targets available.
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