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Old 01-06-2010, 02:02 PM
David in NC David in NC is offline
 
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Default $10.00 Rifle. Possible Project Maybe?

I know it's not a CMP rifle but it is from the same time frame. A few weeks ago I was talking to a older gentlemen at work and he said that he had some carbine stocks. I told him I'd like to see them. A few day's latter he brought in some stuff. No carbine stocks, but he did have a nice 03 scant stock with all the metal along with some other items. He told me that he had the items for along time. He said that a old lady he knew that her husband had passed away and he had some stuff that he could have that was out in the building. He picked this up at the time. I told him what it was. He also said that this has been laying in his building for over twenty years. I made him a offer on some of the other items and he said that if I'd give him another $10.00 I could have this rifle. I figured what the heck, so I bought it.

From my understanding it's a T99 Arisaka "Last Ditch" rifle. Surface rust, but everything moves. Nothing is seized up. The barrel has been filled by dirt daubers so I don't know the condition of it. I thought this might be a good candidate for a electrolysis tank experiment. Unfortunately the stock has been sawed off I believe. I don't know if it's worth restoring or not but it is a interesting piece of history. I've read that none of these were ever imported into the states and that all were vet bring backs. Also that the mum's on the receiver's were mostly removed.

There are allot of knowledgeable people here so I thought I'd post it and see if anyone thought it was a worthwhile project.

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Old 01-06-2010, 02:35 PM
Edward Ludwig Edward Ludwig is offline
 
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The stock my have been cut so it would fit in a duffel bag.

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Old 01-06-2010, 03:37 PM
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Rumor 'round the Arisaka collector's campfire has it, depending on how "last ditch" it is, some of these rifles weren't heat-treated properly, due to wartime constraints (and the B-29 bomber)...I don't think there's any way to tell, but I would NOT shoot that rifle...but that's your call...
These type 99's are still around for well under $200, should you want a shooter that is of earlier manufacture and properly heat treated....
I always liked these last ditch rifles, as they are a graphic snapshot of a certain place & time in history...and how good triumphed over evil..(I sound like a Superhero there..LOL..)..


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Nice rifle..I'd put a triggerguard & some wood on it and make it a nice wallhanger..
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:44 PM
I.B. Waitin I.B. Waitin is offline
 
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Last ditch with an intact Mum and matching both/receiver. I wouldn't go crazy $$-wise on the project but restored it would make an interesting conversation price.

Just for giggles what's the bore look like?

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Old 01-06-2010, 08:00 PM
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I've seen lots of type 99s with the horizontal "cut" in the same place on the stock.
By design, for some reason?

Can you tell if the tip of the firing pin is intact? I've also read many (GI bringbacks) were required to remove the pin, then snap it off before bringing on the ship.

Either way, agreee with others, intact mum, matching numbers, and otherwise clear markings - if the rust comes off, good conversation piece/wall hanger
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:22 PM
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From what I have read that cut in the stock was a lamination due to the poor quality of wood used in these. If it was mine, I'd see what it takes to blow it up ala P.O. Ackley.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:45 PM
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The stock was cut at the barrel band so the rifle would fit in a duffle bag and when put back together the cut would not be seen. I purchased a few Jap rifles about 6-7 years ago and that cut is very common. It will probably cost more to refinish then what it is worth. Still would be a cool project.
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Old 01-06-2010, 11:17 PM
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The bolt isn't "last-ditch", it has the plumb. The "last ditch" guns had a smaller machined knob.
The bore may well be decent, they're chrome-lined usually.

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Old 01-07-2010, 07:34 AM
I.B. Waitin I.B. Waitin is offline
 
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Not an expert but, while the bolt handle may not be typical LD that piece on the safety end of the bolt and the way it's finished looks typical of LD rifles. Frankly I think they were throwing rifles together using whatever was available at this point so "new production" contained a certain % of "mixmasters" from the get go. I'd be willing to bet that bolt body was associated with that rifle from the start as opposed to being cobbeled together by someone else later.

Anywho, interesting item.

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Old 01-07-2010, 08:49 AM
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Default Looks to me like . . . .

. . . you have a "Toriimatsu factory of Nagoya Arsenal-produced", Series 10 with a MATCHING bolt.

NOT a "last ditch" rifle, rather, a "next-to-the-last, last-ditch" rifle.

Series 10 rifles ORIGINALLY had a SEPERATE forend (which usually rattled around) from the lower band to the bayonet band.

I have the same rifle (albiet in much better condition) and have shot it with my low-pressure handloads without any problems. --Jim

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