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Old 02-10-2018, 03:09 PM
ozarkmac ozarkmac is offline
 
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Default Cerakoted 1911s

I have read a couple posts on other forums where the DoD 1911s were cerakoted and some members have stated that in fact some of those received by CMP will have been cerakoted.

I personally do not prefer this type of finish. What are the options and issues with removing cerakote? I have never refinished nor had a weapon refinished, so I have no knowledge in this area. Thanks!
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Old 02-10-2018, 04:06 PM
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If it's a DOD weapon with Cerakote why would you want to remove it? The CMP 1911s will cost much more than a commonly available 1911 (You can by plain jane 1911s for what, $500-$750?) because they are collectible. They are collectible because of their history.

2 minutes on the google will tell you all you need to know about removing Cerakote, and it involves the word "sandblast".

You will spend several hundred removing Cerakote and having a new finish applied, and it will then be worth less than what you paid just for the 1911 in the 1st place.

One thought: Don't buy one with Cerakote?

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Old 02-10-2018, 04:17 PM
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I think the 1911's will be a bit different from 'other stock' that CMP has received and I could be totally wrong in that.
My reasoning is;

1. This has been talked about for a long time
......a. The army has been storing these
........b. The army, prior to storing these, would have gone over them in case of needing to be reissued

I could be wrong and these were sent to army storage, serial numbers taken and they were piled in boxes, all haphazard. My feeling is that these first 8k and probably the next 10-30k have been stored much like most long storage firearms - properly stacked, placed and secured.
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Old 02-10-2018, 04:40 PM
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I'd venture to say that if someone were to receive a CMP M1911 that was cerakoted by the US military, and was not happy with it, I'm sure they could sell it on the open market for more than they paid. I think there's going to be like 10 buyers for each of the 8000 pistols. Like musical chairs,...... with wayyyyyy to few chairs.
As a matter of fact I bet there's guys who'd prefer one with that modern finish on a vintage military M1911.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:14 PM
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I have read a couple posts on other forums where the DoD 1911s were cerakoted and some members have stated that in fact some of those received by CMP will have been cerakoted.

I personally do not prefer this type of finish. What are the options and issues with removing cerakote? I have never refinished nor had a weapon refinished, so I have no knowledge in this area. Thanks!
Sir:
You're guessing and connecting things that may not even be accurate.

The ONLY 1911's that the US military used that were Cerakoted were these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEU(SOC)_pistol

and since they have already been surplused out, I don't think the CMP will be getting them.

But if you don't want Cerakote, don't order one.
If you get one, sell it.

It is pain to remove and so not worth the effort, so selling it off is a better, easier plan.
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:59 PM
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Hell, I got my Carbine order the first morning of the first day that we could submit our orders and you're worried about getting a cerakoted 1911? You're a lucky man, go buy a lottery ticket, you're sure to win.

Just giving you a hard time. Like Gewehr said, if you got a MARSOC gun, you'd be nuts to alter it in any way.
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Old 02-10-2018, 08:44 PM
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Sir:
You're guessing and connecting things that may not even be accurate.

The ONLY 1911's that the US military used that were Cerakoted were these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEU(SOC)_pistol

and since they have already been surplused out, I don't think the CMP will be getting them.

But if you don't want Cerakote, don't order one.
If you get one, sell it.

It is pain to remove and so not worth the effort, so selling it off is a better, easier plan.
The only ones surplused out were those that were swapped one for one with Colt to get ionbond replacements.

Seems all that Gunbroker sold were east coast pistols.

There may be some west coast cerakote still

Than there is a full load of ionbond guns getting replaced by G19s
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:07 PM
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And well see, if things go well with the 70-100 year old surplus pistols, now that the CMP has it's 01 FFL maybe the future will hold other models of newer handguns deemed obsolete/surplus. Just as the DCM/CMP sold WWII & WWI rifles, but when modern rifles have become available they get them too, like the 1990's military contract Kimber 82Gs, and the XM3 sniper rifles, neither are C&R eligible, but the CMP received them to sell to the US public. Good things to hope for.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:17 PM
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The only ones surplused out were those that were swapped one for one with Colt to get ionbond replacements.

Seems all that Gunbroker sold were east coast pistols.

There may be some west coast cerakote still

Than there is a full load of ionbond guns getting replaced by G19s
And you think the CMP will be getting them?
Since they didn't get the last batch surplused out?

And you think the CMP will get other pistols too?
Getting this first batch was a @#$%............

I'm not as optimistic as you.......................

But either way............OP if you don't want a Cerakoted pistol, don't buy one.

PS......... how do you know where the came from (ie East Coast) or whatever?
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:29 PM
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The only cerakoted one that existed that I know of are the M45A1's that belonged to the Marines. There are/were a couple thousand+ of them. If you could get one through the CMP, it would be a steal. The only ones in civilian hands right now were traded out with colt and "decommissioned" by Xing out he USMC roll mark. Those are currently selling for around $3,500.
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