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Old 05-15-2010, 08:29 PM
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You seem to be mixing both Saginaw plants together?
Saginaw began at 3,250,020 until 3,541,000 when Grand Rapids took over the numbering in March of '43'. So that's why I think RGC01's 3.4 is early '43'

I really don't know, I'm just thinking. Saginaw is a tough one, very vague.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:27 AM
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When you ask a question like yours you will get different answers based on the members experience and knowlage, in order to be in your guess of Sept. Saginaw would of had a huge scrap rate. Unless BQ97 chimes in with a different date I would go with Dec. 1943.

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Okay I'll take Dec '43. What does BQ97 stand for? I'll try and get some photos posted today if my computer decides to be cooperative (she can be temperamental concerning downloads). Thanks for the info!
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:57 AM
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My Saginaw SG 3,353,xxx appears to be original and is a purported bringback. It has an IBM extractor. According to War Baby, Saginaw requested 5,000 extractors from IBM on 10-7-43 (the only time this part was acquired from IBM if War Baby's listing is complete). Assuming my extractor is one of those (and not a repair/replacement), I would then place mine in mid- to late October at the earliest.

With Saginaw making tens of thousands of carbines every month, a small part like an extractor from a relatively small batch of 5,000 could easily have made it to the bottom of the bin and not been installed until later, perhaps much later. However, I believe it likelier that if SG only requested 5,000 then that was because they were in desperate need to fill a coming temporary shortage and would have more likely have been used almost immediately. Flip a coin.

Using the monthly shipped numbers on p. 442 of War Baby and allowing a 10% scrap rate on receivers, I would place 3,490,xxx around mid-December, 1943. Again, this is an earliest date.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:05 AM
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Oops! Basic math eludes me temporarily. Make that: 3,460,xxx an early December born-on date.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:55 AM
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I'll take a stab at what does BQ97 stand for, "Bachelor Quarters 1997". Right?
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:56 AM
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Saginaw began at 3,250,020 until 3,541,000 when Grand Rapids took over the numbering in March of '43'. So that's why I think RGC01's 3.4 is early '43'

I really don't know, I'm just thinking. Saginaw is a tough one, very vague.
Thomas
S'G' Grand Rapids took over IP 4-1-1943, they did not take over SG serial #'s in march.
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Old 05-16-2010, 02:00 PM
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This has become a new hobby trying to figure out the Saginaw SG and S'G' mixture. The Carbine Club newsletters are a big help but sometimes I get a little confused. M1-TA; Do you have news letter #357 ? If so study pg. 11 and see what you make out of it.

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Old 05-16-2010, 04:45 PM
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Sound like you scored a winner. Cant wait to see!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/...90673df1_o.jpg
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:21 PM
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Sound like you scored a winner. Cant wait to see!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/...90673df1_o.jpg

Okay here you go guys. The Saginaw is the birch M2 potbelly stocked Carbine. To it's right is my other Carbine, an 8xx,xxx Inland (10-43 barrel date) that was my first fiream, picked up in the Spring of '94 (Saginaw is firearm No.17). Sorry if they're not professional grade photos! Will try to add to and improve this in the next couple of days.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v104/ronliebman/RG%20Saginaw%20M1%20Carbine/?albumview=slideshow

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Old 05-17-2010, 12:17 PM
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I'll take a stab at what does BQ97 stand for, "Bachelor Quarters 1997". Right?
Nope, initials and square footage of my parachute
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