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Old 08-21-2013, 01:53 PM
JimF JimF is offline
 
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Default HXP at Perry . . . .

Anyone remember just WHAT years/lot numbers of the HXP that was giving shooters fits in their bolt guns a few years ago?

I just came across a few sealed spam cans of HXP from the 1960's and early 70's.

Many thanks for any info received! ---Jim
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Old 08-21-2013, 02:10 PM
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:30 PM
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HXP 77 was the culprit. I won't shoot that stuff. A whole bunch of heavy bolt handle lifts in the 03 matches when it was issued at Perry. I have fired a lot of HXP 70, 72 & 73 with no issues at all, 03's and M1's.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:14 PM
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......so you guys believe that quality control was such that problems were isolated to certain lots??? Well then, what is the purpose of quality control??? and Lots??? You will find oversize cases throughout the HXP spectrum. Good Shooting.....
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:43 AM
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I have been going to the CMP Games at Perry since 2005. The only year(s) I had trouble with issue ammo was when they handed out HXP 77. Just my experience. I heard a lot of carping along the line and from my friends about the same headstamp. That's all I'm saying. Just trying to answer the original poster. Jon
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:49 AM
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Thanks guys . . . I really appreciate it! Jim
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Old 08-22-2013, 11:10 AM
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Tombguard, What Ceresco is implying is that while HXP 77 ammo exhibited frequent and sometimes severe issues (excessive bolt lift force, dismounted op rods, duds, hangfires, etc.) there is the concern that other lots will have the same issues but with perhaps lesser frequency. If a manufacturing process doesn't have robust QC practices, more issues are lurking out there like snakes in the grass. I am not saying that you should avoid HXP ammo - I'm just saying that one should be aware that systemically the issues might extend beyond HXP 77 ammo.
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Old 08-22-2013, 12:45 PM
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fwiw, I've recently finished shooting a can (192 rnds) of HXP 77 in numerous local JCG matches and practice sessions. Shot in several of my M1's. Not a single hic-up and just as good/accurate as any other surplus M2, imho. At 200 yrds and less, there isn't a whole lotta difference in most surplus ammo. Another note, is the 10's of millions of rounds of HXP the CMP has sold, especially what's going out recently, is a ton of HXP 77 & 78. This is the first complaint/issue I've heard about HXP 77.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:18 PM
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I too have fired thousands of rounds of HXP--never experienced any problems other than the oversize case dimensions. I had a bag of oversize HXP cartridges I had accumulated at one time. One of the cartridges (not damaged) would not chamber in any proper 30-06. Most of the oversized HXP would only cause sporadic problems in tightly chambered rifles, so not everyone believes there is a problem. Cut the top off an old 30-06 FL sizing die and make a "body sizer" -- run the HXP through it and the problems are solved. Good Shooting.....
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:14 PM
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Is it required that you shoot 'issue' ammo in this event?
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