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Old 11-10-2013, 06:13 PM
Scott L. Scott L. is offline
 
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Default IMR-4895 Load for M1 Garand

I am about to load up 300 rounds of 30.06 to fire out of my M1 Garand. I am using IMR-4895, CCI Magnum and WLR Primers, M2 Cases (LC and HXP), and 150 gr FMJ-BT Bullets (Midway Blemished - Hornady?).

A load of 48.4 gr of IMR-4895 has been recommended to me by a friend. Does that sound safe and a good simulation of USGI M2 (2,750 fps +/- 40 fps)?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:26 PM
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Sounds OK. I have been loading IMR 4895 behind 150 gr fmjbt in my Garand for yrs and find mine shoots better at 46-47 gr. 49 gr is considered max, but not always the best.

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Old 11-10-2013, 06:46 PM
MrHyde MrHyde is offline
 
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It's not unreasonable, but it seems high to start with. I'd personally start around 46.5-47grs and tune from there.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:56 PM
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I would not use the magnum primers, no need and not that much data for them. I use 48 grains and its pretty stiff. I would not go much higher and am considering backing off a bit myself as I don't shoot at a long enough range to justify it.
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:53 PM
Mike Boufford Mike Boufford is offline
 
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What type of rifle does your friend use for that load? Remember that military brass has less case capacity. The Sierra book recommends backing off one to one and one half grains of powder with military brass due to thicker construction of military brass.

Better safe than sorry. Start your load much lower and work up from there using a chronograph.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:46 PM
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My tried and true load is 46 gr of either 4895 or 4064. After a range session today I'm considering going a little hotter on the 4895 load though. Maybe 47-47.5.
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Old 11-10-2013, 09:02 PM
lapriester lapriester is online now
 
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You say you're using CCI magnum and WLR. The magnums will match the performance of mil spec and are fine if you just want to spend more money. CCI200 will do just fine unless you just enjoy spending a little extra. But, don't mix the WLR with the CCI mags in the same batch of loads and expect the same POI from both. There will be some difference in performance between the two. Over 48gr of 4895 is a bit hot IMHO but not excessive. With 4895 hotter loads seem to perform better. Milder loads will perform better, IMHO, using Varget and 4064 and be less expensive to load. I quit using 4895 a couple years ago due to unsatisfying accuracy performance and used up what I had left for utility plinking AR loads where it performed well. I find the other powders much easier to meter and get better overall performance out of both.

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Old 11-10-2013, 09:45 PM
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Scott, I think it is generally well agreed upon that 4895 is a fine powder for the Garand.

Ryan V
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:06 AM
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Scott, I think it is generally well agreed upon that 4895 is a fine powder for the Garand.

Ryan V
I think it's more assumed that it is because it was the most common powder used in USGI loads for M2. As such it is an appropriate and "good" powder for use in Garand loads. "Fine" or excellent might be stretching it IMHO. There are powders out there that will produce more accurate ammo and meter ten times better. There is nothing at all wrong with the powder but it's not my go-to powder for Garands and it's currently less available than powders that are, in my experience somewhat, to a lot better.

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Old 11-11-2013, 05:16 AM
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I changed over to Varget use it in 06 and 223. Accurate and clean. Soft on M1 garand and safe.
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