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Old 09-03-2015, 08:30 AM
Mark Johnson Mark Johnson is offline
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We have weighed 7 different manufactures of AR type rifles. 6 different scope manufactures and too many combinations to remember... No lead weights and the rifle with scope and mount makes the 11.5 lbs.
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:16 PM
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Hey Mark, thanks for posting.

Wondering, what is the purpose of the weight limit? It seems to step on the "internal modifications allowed" rule.

Secondly, if this change (scopes) is because the military is going to optics, why not just allow exactly the optics they commonly issue? On this point we seem to be allowing external modifications.

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Old 09-03-2015, 06:38 PM
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We have weighed 7 different manufactures of AR type rifles. 6 different scope manufactures and too many combinations to remember... No lead weights and the rifle with scope and mount makes the 11.5 lbs.
Does the no lead weights mean that I cannot use an HBAR with lead in the stock to create the balance that I want?
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:45 PM
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It's not the lead weights that is in question. If you shoot with open sights add as much lead as you want. If you want to use a 4.5x scope , it can only weight 11.5 pounds total.
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:36 PM
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It's not the lead weights that is in question. If you shoot with open sights add as much lead as you want. If you want to use a 4.5x scope , it can only weight 11.5 pounds total.
That is what I figured, but I didn't want to get dq'd on a technicality.
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Old 09-04-2015, 10:08 AM
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Why the weight thing?? Is this some attempt to balance a perceived advantage from the optic with a percieved disadvantage from the weight limit?? I'm not buying into that one. Just looking for some logic here..... Good Shooting. ..
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:46 PM
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I can't help but wonder if Mark (and the other folks who came up with this weight limit idea) are aware that Rock River isn't the only manufacturer of National Match rifles (tongue in cheek - I'm sure they are), but more importantly, the RRA barrel has a different/lighter profile than most other barrels on the market.
What about compass lake? White oak armament?

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Old 09-23-2015, 03:38 PM
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That's too bad because Highpower shooting is more akin to what a MK12 SPR does than what door-bashers do with a 4x scope or ACOG.

I think MK12 type optics (up to 12X) should be allowed.

I probably won't shoot HP again until scopes are allowed. My eyes are too bad. However, neither do I want to spring for a single-use scope. If I'm going to spend cash on a quality scope, I want something more versatile than a retrograde 4x.

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Old 10-02-2015, 06:13 PM
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When are rules to be finalized. What stock types may be allowed...front and buttstock
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:56 AM
Greg Ficklin Greg Ficklin is offline
 
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I'm not against the weight limit, but I would like to see some ability to use limited weight distribution on the scoped rifles. The people that like weight like as much as they can get. So the choice between a 13lbs limit or a unlimited weighted rifle still accomplishes the same thing without cutting it so close as to limit the available scope and mount options. Thirteen pounds is a good compromise that saves a lot of head aches and worry of being out of competition, and the expense of trying to make weight.
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