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Old 08-04-2011, 12:29 PM
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Default M1 Carbine with odd cartouche?

Ok, maybe not odd except to me. Anyhow, LGS has a Postal Meter Carbine with a "FAT 32" cartouche inside a rectangular box. On top of the " fat" was a star. Would someone explain that to me. The price was $795and I was surprised at the price (high IMO). It was the only stock of the three carbines they had that looked good and/or original to me. The "FAT 32 " stock was the only one that had any cartouches or stamps on it.

They also had a paratroop for the low price of $4995!
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:48 PM
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FAT = Fabbrica d'Armi a Terni the "Springfield Armory" of Italy

My CMP IBM carbine has a FAT stamp on the stock. It was returned from Italy.

The FAT stamp can be seen on Carcano rifles made at the armory.

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Old 08-04-2011, 02:31 PM
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It's very likely that the paratrooper carbine is 2X the true value. I've seen them for $6K before, but have "a few" that I have $2500 or less invested in.
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Old 08-04-2011, 02:49 PM
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LGS has a Postal Meter Carbine with a "FAT 32" cartouche inside a rectangular box. On top of the " fat" was a star. Would someone explain that to me. The price was $795and I was surprised at the price (high IMO). It was the only stock of the three carbines they had that looked good and/or original to me. The "FAT 32 " stock was the only one that had any cartouches or stamps on it.
I'll bet that "32" is really an "82". 32 would = 1932, which is impossible in this case.
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:13 PM
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Thank you for your replies.

In looking at the "32", I can see how it might be an "8". Regardless, does the Italian connection do anything to the value of this rifle? Looking for a nice carbine and this shop is close enough plus they have an amazing collectionof WW II pistols, many that I have only seen in photos. Still, it is fun shopping.

With reference to the price of the Paratrooper, a while back I was looking at a Remington Model 51 .380 that he had - no bluing left, front sight missing, and a crack in one grip - I offered $250 and was told "these are scarce and valuable". I didn't buy it.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:13 PM
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Having been in Italy doesn't add to the value of a carbine. But it is a CMP carbine so the value is at least what other non imports are going for.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:02 AM
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Having been in Italy doesn't add to the value of a carbine. But it is a CMP carbine so the value is at least what other non imports are going for.
Why do you say it is a CMP carbine? This is in a local gun shop.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:25 AM
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The batch of carbines from about four years ago were Italian returns...most had FAT markings.
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:27 AM
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Thank you.
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:57 AM
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. . . it is a CMP carbine . . .
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Why do you say it is a CMP carbine? This is in a local gun shop.
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The batch of carbines from about four years ago were Italian returns...most had FAT markings.
The only thing I'd bet on right now is that the stock is from a CMP carbine. There may also be a "FAT" stamp on the barrel under the handguard.
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