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Old 06-19-2012, 09:44 PM
XSubSailor XSubSailor is offline
 
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Default Reloading for the .308 Garand

I just received my CMP Special .308 Garand and purchased a box of the Atomic Ammo to go with it. I had decent results with the Atomic ammo, but wanted to know if anyone has ventured into reloading for this rifle?

I checked the Hornady Reloading Manual and wonder if the M14/M1A data would be compatible because of their similar design and gas operating system.
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:22 PM
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Do a search in the reloading forum...this has been covered a lot.

My personal load is 41.5 grains of IMR 4895 with a 168 Sierra BT and LC brass.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:52 AM
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Of course you can handload for it--it's just a 308win. Any light to moderate load with the usual M1 approved powders will work fine. If your shooting is 1-200yds, try the 110 to 130gr bullets. Cost and recoil are reduced with no loss of accuracy. My usual load out to 300yds is the 125gr Speer TNT with 44.2grs BenchMark@ 2.666" OAL--2980fps. The 110gr bullets with 41-42grs VarGet or BenchMark are great for 100yd shooting. Much more pleasant to shoot than heavy bullets which provide no benefit at short ranges. Good Shooting.....
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:42 AM
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I started out a the bottom charge wt of H4895 pushing 168 gr bullet. 37 grains. Went bang and ejected the case but short cycled and would not load the next round. Loading a few at 38 gr to see what they will do. Have a feeling I'll end up somewhere between 39 and 40 gr. Anyhow, fun finding out.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:02 AM
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The M14/M1A data are entirely appropriate.

39-40 grains of any M1 powder behind a Hornady or Sierra 168 BTHP will produce ammunition that works great out to 600 yards.

Lighter bullets are fine for 100-300 yards. No need to push them very fast, as long as the action cycles.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:15 PM
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I had some rounds loaded up with 148 gr bullets and 41 gr 4064. I loaded these for my Ishpore because I did not want to over load it. I used them in .308 M-1 and I did get a short cycle every so often. So I will bump the load up a little for the next ones I load.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:27 PM
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Good stuff, thanks guys.

Can anyone explain a qualitative difference between IMR 4895 and H 4895? I've got some Varget on hand to start with, but will likely experiment with a couple powders down the road.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:39 PM
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I read in some Hogdon literature that IMR 4895 is supposedly what matchs what was loaded in 30-06 cartridges in WW2 and later. Then in another part the literature stated that H4895 was surplus military that Bruce Hogdon got started with. Load data seems to show a small difference in how max loads for different weight bullets. I use H4895 since there is load information on 223 that I run thru a Saiga. Only have to keep one powder on hand.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:35 AM
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Good stuff, thanks guys.

Can anyone explain a qualitative difference between IMR 4895 and H 4895? I've got some Varget on hand to start with, but will likely experiment with a couple powders down the road.
"Qualitative" difference? Is one "better" than the other? No. Either will produce accurate and reliable ammunition.
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Old 06-23-2012, 11:47 AM
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Good stuff, thanks guys.

Can anyone explain a qualitative difference between IMR 4895 and H 4895? I've got some Varget on hand to start with, but will likely experiment with a couple powders down the road.

The original H-4895 was simply surplus IMR-4895 (the military version of it anyway) that Bruce Hodgdon repackaged and sold back in the day. The H simply refers to his last name.

As is the case with nearly every mil-surp powder, there is often a lot of difference in burning rate between it and the civilian canister version of the same powder. 4895 was no different. They are very close to the same today since Hodgdon acquired the IMR line from DuPont. All new lots from different plants than in the old days. As already said, both versions will give excellent performance in any suitable load.

My personal choice in .30-06/.308 loads, however, is Varget. It seems to meter in measures a bit better, and accuracy is superb with 168 HPBT match bullets.
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