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Old 12-05-2012, 08:05 AM
col b col b is offline
 
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Please take a look at these. Barrel Date?




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Old 12-05-2012, 10:15 AM
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I think they made barrels for a rebuilt Type 3D with that draw number 1963 through 1967, if thats what your question is

Update according to Poyers book, if correct.
Yes they stopped NM re-builds in 1963, SA did make that barrel 1961-1967 for rebarrelling.

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Old 12-05-2012, 10:40 AM
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I have a barrel marked 6535448 3-67. At the gunshow this weekend I saw rotted out 2-67 on an arlington ord import. These barrels all have a distinct look to them. Often the 6 is barely readable and the metal has that mottled look to it.

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Old 12-05-2012, 10:52 AM
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I have a document somewhere that mentions that 3 or 4-67 was the last month SA made any barrels.
Springfirld Armory's barrel production ended sometime after Sept/67 I have a M14 barrel that I used on a M1A rifle with that barrel date.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:05 AM
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Phil McGrath is right. I should have looked for my document before posting. Taken from a post long ago-

This is what Dave McClain wrote in the Spring 1995 GCA Newsletter.
" all M1 receiver production was finished by early 1956. SA production was primarily focused on the adopted M14 rifle by this time.
This is why .30 cal. M1 barrels are not observed with dates much later than 7 or 8-56 to late 1961.
Production runs of .30-06 M1 barrels then appear again in very late 1961 and continue to build in quanity until barrel production ceased permanently in early 1967.
Springfield Armory closed in 1968 and obviously they were winding down much before that. Heaviest production occurred in 1965 and 1966 for post-Korea replacement barrels.
The latest SA M1 barrel I have listed in my data base is dated 3-67 ".

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Old 12-05-2012, 11:55 AM
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I have talked to Dave about this...who I assume talked to Bob. He is specifically referring to regular M1 Barrels not NM barrels when reporting that last production was 3/67.

That's why I am curious. Dave stated that he has never seen one. Just wondering if anyone else had any information on the production/lack of production or if anyone out there had another example. Who knows, maybe the stamper had a rough weekend!! Does seem like an odd coincidence.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:33 PM
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I do notice that the OP's barrel is a 7791035, the drawing number of the latest NM barrels first used in 1963. I would guess that they were produced as replacement barrels for the support of civilian shooters still using the M1 NM rifle at the regional and National Matches. I would think that by 1967 all military shooters would be using the M14.

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:52 PM
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Joe, I read somewhere that the NM mission was transferred to RIA from SA upon closure of SA and that there are some RIA NM M1 barrels out there...but rare.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:21 PM
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Joe, I read somewhere that the NM mission was transferred to RIA from SA upon closure of SA and that there are some RIA NM M1 barrels out there...but rare.
The only barrel that RIA made for the M1 was in 7.62mm before the machinery from SA was place in storage. RIA #11686320 SPL 6/69 M118 for the US Air Force. This barrel is rifled 4 grooves with 1/12 twist.

RIA support of the NM Rifle program amounted too what ever parts were in inventory and when they were gone that was all she wrote. There NM .45 support was more involved.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:36 AM
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Joe, I read somewhere that the NM mission was transferred to RIA from SA upon closure of SA and that there are some RIA NM M1 barrels out there...but rare.
I believe it was sometime in 1967 that the M1 NM program was transfered to Rock Island. According to "Significant Dates" by Billy Pyle found on his web site garandstand.weebly.com, it is stated that " 1967 - SA National Match program transfers to Rock Island Arsenal. 1967 and into the 1970's RIA makes an unknown quanity of NM M1 Trophy Rifles and Trophy M1911A1's." ( I do recognize that this is no indication that RIA made any .30 M1 NM barrels) Pyle further states " 3-67: SA ceases M1 barrel production."

As the OP asked " Please take a look at these. Barrel date?", to me the barrel date looks to be 3-67 which would be when SA ceased barrel production.

Would like to hear from Rolling Thunder regarding any known Rock Island manufactured .30 M1 NM barrels.

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