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* Any members advertising their wares on the site without expressed permission will get banned. Personal items for sale in the classifieds are ok as long as the meet the criteria laid out in the site rules.

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This activity slows down the estore and can cause problems with it crashing, errors with people's orders, and inventory errors, particularly during periods of high demand/traffic.
Anyone making such posts on the forum will be warned once, then have their forum privileges suspended at least temporarily for a second violation. Further violations can result in permanent suspension.

* There will be no posting of links to, or copying information from listings on outside auctions/commercial sites, i.e. -- Gunbroker, Ebay, Armslist, Craigslist, Reddit, gun trader sites, etc, that are still active/live. We will not provide a platform for members to promote said auctions as there is no viable way to determine whether they or someone they know has a stake in the auction. Posts with this information will be removed. Continual violations will result in suspension of forum privileges. You may link to closed/completed auctions in the sake of education and learning.

* Users who post fake information, i.e. - name, location, in their profile, or otherwise provide/post false information/data about themselves will be instantly banned. Users who register multiple usernames will also be removed.

* Your account may be revoked at any time for any reason.

Generally, the following enforcement policy will apply:

1st offense - warning
2nd offense - banned for one week to six month
3rd offense - banned for one year
4th offense - banned permanently
** Depending on the nature of the offense/rule violation, first offense can result in ANY of the above enforcement actions.



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ADDITIONAL RULES, TO INCLUDE MARKETPLACE/CLASSIFIED AD RULES:

1. Profile Requirements

To start a sale, buy or trade thread anywhere in the Marketplace, your Profile must contain:

A. Your FIRST and LAST name as well as your STATE of residence. Your profile privacy settings must be set to at least allow registered users the ability to view your profile info, i.e. - Not set to "Friends only."
B. You must "enable receive email and PM’s" in your Control panel if you intend to buy or sell.

Additionally, you must have a valid email address listed in your registration profile (which can only be viewed by moderators/admin in the vBulletin master page).

Users with obvious fake names, or using false names in their profile will be permanently removed from the forum without warning.
PLEASE NOTE: When a member has failed to put their full names and location in their profile, their ads will be deleted WITHOUT NOTICE. You are responsible enough to be involved in firearm activity, so you can be responsible enough to read and understand the forum rules. The posted rules ARE your notice as they are posted throughout the forum. Threads/ads will be restored once a member has updated their profile with first and last name, and state.


2. The Marketplace is intended SOLELY for the mutual benefit of forum members as a resource to support each other's collecting and/or shooting goals.
It is NOT intended for, and will NOT be used by members as a repeated, for-profit venture/operation. This includes:
A. Purchasing items from members on the forum, then posting them for sale at a markup/profit on other commercial sites, i.e. – eBay, Gunbroker, etc.
B. Reselling items at a considerable markup that were recently purchased from CMP.
Members found to have clearly abused this policy will lose the ability to post in and use the Marketplace, and potentially have their forum privileges suspended, temporarily or permanently.


3. You may only list personally owned items, and/or request/WTB items for yourself. “Selling (or buying) this for a friend/family member” ads, and 3rd-party sales/purchases are prohibited.
Additionally, NO posting or linking to listings on eBay, Craigslist, Gunbroker, Reddit, or other outside auction/commercial sites. We will not have the items placed here also. List your product here, try to sell it here, then take it to eBay, Craigslist, Gunbroker, auction-arms, etc.

4. There will be no “auction style” selling here…If you post an item for sale and it says anything like "I will take the highest offer" it will be removed.
We ask that you list your item on just one forum, so there is not confusion and/or issues with an item being sold on another forum when someone attempts to purchase it here. If you do list and sell on another forum, it is your responsibility to immediately update your ad on our forum…if you do not, your privilege to post in the Marketplace and even the forum itself may be suspended, at least temporarily.

NOTE REGARDING 1911 PISTOLS PURCHASED FROM CMP:
If you are considering selling a 1911/1911A1 you acquired directly from CMP, you MUST obtain approval from CMP1911ADMIN before listing it on the forum as purchasers of these weapons are not allowed to resell them as a condition of the purchase. You may reach him via PM or email: [email protected]


5. Vendors (or people selling large quantities of the same item as part of a commercial venture) must first contact a moderator or admin.


6. Omission of information is also known as fraud. It is wholly the responsibility of the person listing an item to describe it ACCURATELY and TRUTHFULLY.
Example: If you are selling a rifle stock that has a 9 inch crack in it you need to disclose that information to the buyer. Do not describe the item or tell the buyer that the stock has "light scratches" only.
If we determine that you defraud a member by failing to disclose facts about your items, your access to this section will be restricted and you may be permanently banned from the forum.


7. CLASSIFIED AD REQUIREMENTS
A. Briefly describe your item in the title, along with WTS, WTT or WTB.
B. We do not have any rules regarding notification of a purchase or trade in an ad...it can be accomplished via a post on the thread, a PM, an email, a phone call, a pigeon carrier, etc. However, if you set the terms of your sale, you must follow them! We do not require or enforce any conditions of purchase; however, if a member violates their own terms then they are subject to at least suspension from the Marketplace section. For example: If you say, "First 'I'll take it' gets it," and sell to someone via PM or email without updating your ad and someone posts they'll take it, that's on you. We will not be party to a dispute, but you WILL lose your privilege to post in the Marketplace as a minimum since you failed to follow your own conditions.
C. You must list a price, and make it easily visible, not just lost in the description. Ads without a price will be deleted. It is ok to list a price and OBO (or best offer); however, no auction-style listings
D. As noted in item #4, provide ALL and ACCURATE details. i.e color, size, caliber, year, make, model, condition, defects, etc
E. Post pictures, or at least the links to them. If you are unable to post pics, then make them available via e-mail.
F. List shipping, pick-up or delivery options for the buyer, as well as cost.
G. Be sure to mark your ad as "SOLD" once the items are sold.


8. Do not bump ads older than 90 days without moderator approval. Ads older than 90 days will be locked if they get bumped.


9. Do not bump an ad more than once within a 24-hour period. Ads bumped multiple times within 24 hours will be locked or deleted. Members who continually do this will have their ads locked or deleted, and will lose your privilege to post in the Marketplace.


10. Remove previous bump posts so as to keep the size of the threads to a minimum. Nobody wants to have to search through 4+ pages of "Bump" or "ttt" posts simply to find information on the item listed.
If not removed, mods will remove them and/or delete the thread if it gets out of hand.


11. If you commit to buy or sell, please contact the seller or buyer within 24 hours with a PM or email to make arrangements.


12. If an item is sold, please mark the thread as such. This will help eliminate the old threads coming back up, as well as help those looking for specific items.


13. For WTB items anywhere in the Marketplace:
- Only respond to a WTB ad if you possess the requested item or have specific knowledge of that item’s availability. For example, do not post, “Check eBay” or “Check Gunbroker.”
- Once you have found/purchased the item(s) desired, delete the thread so as to not waste other members' time and allow for other threads to have visibility.


14. Keep the classified threads clean of extraneous/fluff comments and questions, regardless of how innocent or praiseworthy. This prevents derailing the thread and generating wasteful, opinionated discussions, as well as surreptitious bumping of threads.
If you have a technical or knowledge question relating to a listed item, start a new thread or search and add to an existing thread.
If you want to thank or praise a seller or item, DON'T do it in the sale thread as it unnecessarily bumps a stale thread, and said comments will be deleted. Instead, do the person the courtesy of posting in the Buyer/Seller Feedback section here:


Basically, if you don't have a question DIRECTLY related to a sale/trade/purchase of a specific thread, don't post! And this particularly applies to stomping a member’s ad concerning their asking price as there is a tendency to post negative replies when someone lists an item for sale that others consider overpriced.
We will not tolerate members stomping another member's ad concerning their asking price.
This also includes posting low-ball offers. If you want to make an offer lower than the asking price, even if it states OBO, do it via PM or email.
If an item is sold and the listing member deleted the price (which is their prerogative) and you want to know what the price was, do NOT post in the thread…send the member a PM.

Those who continually stomp or hijack other member's ads will face temporary, and even permanent suspension of their forum privileges.


15. No duplicate or multiple threads in different sections for the same item. Pick one section, the most applicable, and post there. Additional duplicate threads will be deleted.


16. You may not use the signature block function to solicit purchases, trades and/or sales. That is why we have the Marketplace...post a thread with your specific WTB, WTS, WTT ad.
You may have up to two lines stating you are looking or searching for a particular rifle/weapon and serial number.
As with individual posts, signature blocks/lines are subject to the same forum rules and will be handled accordingly if they violate any forum rules, policies/procedures or take up too much room of a post.


OTHER TIPS/GUIDELINES
- Buyers and Sellers should verify each other’s identity before sending money and/or products. If possible, get each other’s phone number and have a quick conversation to confirm the transaction details.
- As a suggestion: sellers should consider using delivery confirmation to avoid conflicts from buyers; saying they never received the products.
- Buyers, get to know the seller a little before you blindly send cash. If something does not seem right; it probably isn't. If something seems too good to be true; it probably is. Contact a moderator or report a thread/post that appears to be a scam.
- Respect fellow members. This section is a great place to support/help out fellow members and occasionally make new friends. Please be respectful to your fellow members. Maybe try selling here to a member instead of eBay, maybe save them a buck or two. If you have any questions, problems or concerns feel free to contact a moderator or admin.
- We do not require members to keep ads, or keep a listing price in the thread. It is your ad, so you are free to delete it at your discretion, as well as remove the asking price if you so desire. If someone is curious about the price for what an item sold, contact the seller via PM…do NOT post in thread.
- Lastly, don't forget the <b>Buyer/Seller Feedback section</b>

Be sure to express a good or bad experience with your buyer or seller, and let others know what to expect. Also be sure to check there for a member if you are concerned BEFORE you buy.


MODERATION RULES/ENFORCEMENT
1. All spammers get banned instantly and permanently.
2. Inappropriate or out of hand threads shall be closed with or without reason posted for the closure or deleted at the discretion of the Mods/Admins.
3. If you cannot follow the rules set forth, your posts may be deleted, removed, or edited by the Moderators.
4. If you repeatedly do not follow the rules set forth, you will be banned from this section or from the CMP Forum for any length of time from 2 days to permanently, at the discretion of the Moderators.

NOTE: These rules can change at any time. Administrators and Moderators have the right to make any decision that fits the website and its users.


DISCLAIMER
The CMP, any of its staff and forum administrators/moderators assume NO liability or responsibility for Marketplace transactions. Members will use at their own risk, and CMP will not be responsible for any disputes or claims between members involving a transaction.
The Civilian Marksmanship Program forum is intended primarily to be a technically-oriented website for professional, courteous, and intellectual discussion of CMP matches, activities, firearms and related events. We are an online community founded by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts, of all ages and walks of life. Remember that we have youth CMP participants who view this site. Please enjoy your stay and with your help, we can make the CMP Forums safe for all.


The opinions and posts on this site do not necessarily reflect those of The Civilian Marksmanship Program.


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Premier San Antonio Gun Show - 19-20 Dec

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  • Premier San Antonio Gun Show - 19-20 Dec

    The Premier San Antonio Gun Show is returning just in time for Christmas! It will be December 19 & 20 at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219). Hours will be Saturday 9 am–5 pm and Sunday 10 am–4 pm. General Admission is $5 (cash only) and parking is $7 per vehicle. More info on Premier's website: http://premiergunshows.com/shows/san-antonio-gun-show/

    This is a great show for Milsurp/C&R collectors. I have picked up some nice firearms and accessories at it, as well as other items.

    We usually meet for breakfast Saturday morning before the show. If anyone is interested, send me a PM!

    Cheers! M2

  • #2
    This great event is just the day after tomorrow! Who else is going?!?

    Cheers! M2

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    • #3
      To make things easier I am just going to keep replying to this thread for the 2016 shows...

      The first Premier San Antonio Gun Show for the new year will be January 9th & 10th at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219). Hours are still Saturday 9 am–5 pm and Sunday 10 am–4 pm. General Admission is still only $5 (cash only) and parking remains at $7 per vehicle. More info on Premier's website: http://premiergunshows.com/shows/san-antonio-gun-show/

      A second show is scheduled for April 9th & 10th.

      Cheers! M2

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      • #4
        Just a reminder that the next Premier San Antonio Gun Show will be this coming weekend, April 9th & 10th, at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219).

        Hours are still Saturday 9 am–5 pm and Sunday 10 am–4 pm.

        General Admission is still only $5 (cash only) and parking remains at $7 per vehicle. More info on Premier's website: http://premiergunshows.com/shows/san-antonio-gun-show/

        As usual, a group of us will be meeting at Teran's (4403 E Houston St) for breakfast at 8am.

        There are also shows scheduled for July 23 & 24, October 15 & 16 and December 17 & 18; so mark your calendars!

        Cheers! M2

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        • #5
          Premier has shown why they are the best gun show promoters in the Lone Star State, they've gone high-tech and have an app!

          For Android users: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ergunshows.app

          There's one for Apple users in the iTune store, but I have no idea how to find it as I am not an Apple guy!

          Use the official Premier Gun Show to buy tickets, view upcoming show schedule, exhibitor information, and much more. Premier currently produces quality in shows in Fort Worth, Lewisville, Mesquite, Waco, Austin, Allen, Pasadena, Texoma, Temple, Austin-Round Rock, and San Antonio!

          Cheers! M2

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          • #6
            Just a reminder that the Premier San Antonio Gun Show will be back in the Alamo City again next weekend, 23 and 24 July, at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219) right next to the AT&T Center.

            Hours are Saturday 9am–5pm, and Sunday 10am–4pm.

            General admission is still only $5 (cash only) and Bexar county charges $7 per vehicle for parking.

            More info on Premier's website: http://premiergunshows.com/shows/san-antonio-gun-show/

            Anyone wanting to do breakfast, we usually meet at Teran's (4403 E Houston St) at 8am on Saturday to "fuel up" before the show!

            There are two more shows scheduled this year on 15 & 16 October and 17 & 18 December, so mark your calendars!

            Cheers! M2

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            • #7
              Just a head's up, the Premier San Antonio Gun Show will be back in the Alamo City again 17 & 18 December at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219) just next to the AT&T Center.

              Hours are Saturday 9am–5pm, and Sunday 10am–4pm.

              General admission is still only $5 (cash only) and Bexar County charges $7 per vehicle for parking.

              More info on Premier's website: https://www.premiergunshows.com/show...onio-gun-show/

              Anyone wanting to do breakfast, we usually meet at Teran's (4403 E Houston St) at 8am on Saturday to "fuel up" before the show; but I am considering a "venue change" to Pancake Joe's at 1011 Donaldson Ave, San Antonio, TX 78228! If you've never heard of this place, it's highly rated but has limited seating.

              It is also a bit farther away from the Freeman Expo Center (10 miles/20 mins).

              Let me know what you think. I have nothing against Teran's, and it's been a while since we've been there; it's just a chance to try something new!

              Cheers! M2

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              • #8
                Yep, it's that time! The Premier San Antonio Gun Show will be back in two weeks (18 & 19 March) with 600 tables at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219), right next to the AT&T Center.

                Hours are Saturday 9am–5pm and Sunday 10am–4pm, with general admission still only $5 (cash only). Bexar County still charges $7 per vehicle for parking.

                More info on Premier's website and/or following the show on Facebook.

                And so you can mark your calendars now, the next scheduled show will be 23 & 24 September.

                As for breakfast, we usually meet at Teran's (4403 E Houston St) at 8am on Saturday to "fuel up" before the show; but an alternative might be Pancake Joe's at 1011 Donaldson Ave, San Antonio, TX 78228! If you've never heard of this place, it's highly rated but has limited seating and it is a bit farther away from the Freeman Expo Center (10 miles/20 mins). Let me know what you think. I have nothing against Teran's, it's always great for a meeting place but I figured we might just try something new!

                Cheers! M2

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                • #9
                  OK, the show is next weekend, so here's your friendly reminder! I think breakfast will be at Teran's, as despite how good Pancake Joe's is, the seating is very limited and if we get more than six people showing up we might not get in.

                  So Teran's at 8am on Saturday it is! Hope to see y'all there!

                  Cheers! M2

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                  • #10
                    Yep, it's that time again! The Premier San Antonio Gun Show will be back in two weeks (17 & 18 June) with 600 tables at the Freeman Expo Hall (3201 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78219), right next to the AT&T Center. Just to note, this show was an addition to the schedule.

                    Hours are Saturday 9am–5pm and Sunday 10am–4pm, with general admission still only $5 (cash only). Bexar County still charges $7 per vehicle for parking. Handicapped and Disabled Veterans park for free.

                    More info on Premier's website and/or following the show on Facebook.

                    And so you can mark your calendars now, the next scheduled show will be 23 & 24 September.

                    As for breakfast, we usually meet at Teran's (4403 E Houston St) at 8am on Saturday to "fuel up" before the show. If anyone is interested in joining us, please feel free to do so.

                    Cheers! M2

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                    • #11
                      Well, it was a good show last Saturday. I bought a steel rifle target, and found a neat Soviet-era multi-tool that was a combination of an axe, shovel, saw and hammer.

                      Unfortunately, there was also some not-so-good news. Due to conflicting shows, the September San Antonio Gun Show has been cancelled and there are no more planned. We spoke to the Premier folks at the show and for the time being they will not be coming back. They do hope to do so one day in the future, but with so many other shows it has been tough getting vendors for this venue.

                      I want to thank Premier for all their hospitality over the years, and let them know we hope they do return soon. Given the decrease in attendance at all gun shows in the city, their departure is understandable; but we do hope it is only temporary!

                      Cheers! M2

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                      • #12
                        I attended with my cousin this week, this being my first Premier Gun Show. Usually in my town we get Saxet.

                        I thought there were a lot of non-firearm related tables compared to other shows I had been to, and noticed the vendor tables only filled maybe 3/4 of the room.

                        BUT, all that being said.

                        There was a nice gentleman there with his WWII German Display that was absolutely wonderful, and I saw some cool stuff. All vendors were very friendly.

                        My cousin and I enjoyed the show and would return again once they start back up!

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