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Orest 12-22-2010 04:20 PM

Status of smallbore rifles
 
During the past 14 years, the Army has required most units and schools to turn in all of their smallbore rifles. Except for a very few stragglers, all of the smallbore rifles were returned to Army storage. These returns, plus all the other smallbore rifles already in depot storage were then transferred to the CMP. Most of these have already been sold over the past 14 years and very few remain in CMP inventory. A trickle of a few dozen of these rifles does find its way to the CMP annually, but we do not expect to ever again receive large quantities of US government smallbore training or target rifles, since they no longer exist in Army inventory (depot or loan).

There are approximately 900 Remington 40X (standard and heavy barrel combined) that we will be inspecting, repairing and offering for sale in a few months. At this time we cannot predict how many will pass inspection as complete rifles and how many will be just barreled receivers. Until we complete inspecting each and every one of these rifles and know what we have, we will not be able to set prices or take orders (or pre-orders) or establish a waiting list.

We also have approximately 300 H&R M12, 500 Remington 513T, and 500 Winchester 52 series rifles. These rifles still have to be inspected, repaired if possible, and graded before we can put them up for sale. As with the 40X above, we cannot predict how many will pass inspection as complete rifles and how many will be just barreled receivers. Until we complete inspecting each and every one of these rifles and know what we have, we will not be able to set prices or take orders (or pre-orders) or establish a waiting list. We do not have a timeline for working these models, but do expect to get at least one model worked in 2011, in addition to the 40X.

In addition to the above models, we do have approximately 1,200 Kimber Model 82 rifles still available. These are available for purchase now. We expect them to sell out in the next 12-18 months, based on sales history.

M44 an M144 “bad” stripped barreled receivers are available for purchase now. These do not have bolts or other components – just the barrel and receiver. We do still have approximately 100 of each left at $25 each.

Once all of the above listed models are sold, that will basically end CMP sales of surplus smallbore rifles, except for the trickle – which we will probably just auction by then.

This post is provided as an answer to the numerous questions we receive about smallbore availability.

starjammir 12-24-2010 07:10 AM

So no more m44 ever? Just receivers?

baron555 12-24-2010 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starjammir (Post 250198)
So no more m44 ever? Just receivers?


His post is very specific.

Orest 12-24-2010 08:32 AM

Please read again:

"A trickle of a few dozen of these rifles does find its way to the CMP annually, but we do not expect to ever again receive large quantities of US government smallbore training or target rifles, since they no longer exist in Army inventory (depot or loan)."

Yes. I expect to see more M44s - but it may be one a month or one a year.

starjammir 12-24-2010 08:35 AM

Thanks guys I appreciate it!

truckin-on 12-25-2010 11:53 AM

Thank you for the update - and Happy Holidays!
 
Orest,

Thanks for your straightforward assessment of where CMP stands with these rifles. Your candor, and tolerance, of all the repeated questioning is much appreciate!

Again, thanks for all that you do for us folks out here and for keeping us informed best you can.

Regards,

-truckin-on

K-Swift 01-07-2011 06:54 PM

What is the status of bolt matching for such rifles?

Do they come with matched bolts, might come with matched bolts, no guarantee, or maybe pay extra for a matched bolt?

I've heard the last batch of 40x's had mismtached bolts, and was wondering if that will be the general case.

Thanks,

K-Swift

Fogtripper 01-07-2011 08:35 PM

I didn't hear that the bolts were mismatched. I do know that mine matches.

This time around I am going to try for a "normal" barrel. My HB shoots like a laser, but I am too old to be shooting it offhand. :)

edlmann 01-08-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Swift (Post 259873)
What is the status of bolt matching for such rifles?
Do they come with matched bolts, might come with matched bolts, no guarantee, or maybe pay extra for a matched bolt?
I've heard the last batch of 40x's had mismtached bolts, and was wondering if that will be the general case.

Mine matched, but many didn't. There were a series of posts to reunite bolts with receivers, some being successful.

Orest 01-11-2011 03:58 PM

they either headspace or they don't. We don't try to match bolts, but we do try to keep the bolt/rifle as we received it.


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