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Brendonbm 04-09-2021 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheboyganjohn (Post 2033486)
Letís have a little game. Post up your RNG and put a guess when you think you will get the call. Then we can come back and see how wrong we were since I will be shocked if anyone with a number higher then 21000 gets it right.

I have 27951 and my guess is November 17 2021.


Funny you say that Iím 27657 and I told my buddy Iíd bet early November so Iím going with November 3/21


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Mtz1598 04-09-2021 04:37 PM

Looks like the calling day is done. I’ve only seen a few numbers posted
Anyone seen were they might be on the RGN numbers as of end of day today 4-9?

Jsmitty81 04-09-2021 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtz1598 (Post 2033973)
Looks like the calling day is done. Iíve only seen a few numbers posted
Anyone seen were they might be on the RGN numbers as of end of day today 4-9?

20075 Still waiting for my call

Mtz1598 04-09-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsmitty81 (Post 2033977)
20075 Still waiting for my call


Your about 60 spots ahead of me
Hopefully you early next week me mid to late next week.

SIG4EVA 04-09-2021 05:04 PM

Considering my Feb. submission garnered a wonderfully high 29,780, I imagine I'll have the chance at a rack grade in 1-2 years.

Shomway 04-09-2021 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtz1598 (Post 2033973)
Looks like the calling day is done. Iíve only seen a few numbers posted
Anyone seen were they might be on the RGN numbers as of end of day today 4-9?

Here....
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hooahbaby (Post 2033987)
Packet Sent: 4 Jan 2021 snail mail
RGN Assigned: 20169
Date Contacted: 9 April
Grades Offered: All
Shipped:
Received:
Manufacture Received:
Model received:
Serial Number: (Optional)


Paladin 04-09-2021 05:10 PM

Have any RGNíS been assigned after 4/6?

Mtz1598 04-09-2021 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shomway (Post 2033995)
Here....

Looks like you passed some of us lucky!
Iím at 20135 and no call.

Steve-OH 04-09-2021 06:39 PM

Wife got her # 2261 on April 6.

Still waiting on mine.

vblue42 04-11-2021 01:33 AM

My apologies if this has been covered in another thread. I got my RGN of 31,152 on April 6th. Does anyone know how many pistols the CMP will be getting? Will I get one with my RGN this high? Thanks for any info.

KRedmond 04-11-2021 06:52 AM

Trying to be prepared
 
With my RGN being 20604 Iím trying to stay prepared when the call comes. Iíve got all the FFL info in my wallet ( including a backup FFL)

Hopefully Iíll get the call before the end of April.

K Redmond
Metro Atlanta

Brian 04-11-2021 07:54 AM

My thought/theory on this (I purchased one in the first round so have no skin in the game) is that cmp may only be assigning numbers based on the known quantity of pistols available at this time.

carrguy1 04-11-2021 10:38 AM

Complete speculation, but Iíve seen in discussions on other sites that the allotment to the CMP is something like 8k-10k per year which is why some people in round one werenít called until last year. IF thatís correct (big IF) then maybe only RGNs up to 28000-30000 will be called this year and the rest next year. Of course it could go higher because not everyone who got a RGN will wind up buying one.

Fenris_Bane 04-11-2021 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carrguy1 (Post 2034481)
Complete speculation, but Iíve seen in discussions on other sites that the allotment to the CMP is something like 8k-10k per year which is why some people in round one werenít called until last year. IF thatís correct (big IF) then maybe only RGNs up to 28000-30000 will be called this year and the rest next year. Of course it could go higher because not everyone who got a RGN will wind up buying one.

The National Defense Act allowed for the transfer of "up to 10,000" pistols per fiscal year. A fiscal year is a leftover idea from the "horse and buggy" era of government where information did could not be collected quickly. So a fiscal year ends on Sept 30 of the current year. This is suppose to give the government departments time to make the end of the year reports.

For example we are in FY2021 which started 1 Oct 2020 and will end 30 Sept 2021. So, there have been 4 fiscal years since the start of the program. Because only 8,000 pistols were sent in FY18, the maximum number could only be 38,000. This would depend on 10,000 pistols being sent in FY19, FY20 & FY21.

Subtract the pistols from Round 1, then the maximum would be less than 19,000. And, it is probably less.

Add to the this the fact that the CMP may not have yet received the FY21 pistols. This would further delay the higher random numbers getting one because these have to be inspected by the CMP first.

It took about 2 years for Round 1 one pistols to start shipping. Round 2 seems to be a little smaller, 15,300+ vs 19,000+.

terry_b 04-11-2021 01:58 PM

well, seeing as how there are only 3,024 people ahead of me, I'm feeling pretty good. Just concerned that my son hasn't gotten a number yet and being how he is now stationed in Bahrain and is notoriously poor about keeping up with archaic forms of communications like e-mail, I advised him to give it a couple weeks then email that cmp address for 1911 issues. In the past, CMP has been pretty great about working with you on "real" problems

Thunderstick 04-11-2021 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vblue42 (Post 2034399)
My apologies if this has been covered in another thread. I got my RGN of 31,152 on April 6th. Does anyone know how many pistols the CMP will be getting? Will I get one with my RGN this high? Thanks for any info.

All you can do is wait and see my friend. My RNG was 9446 and I was told they do not have enough pistols to complete my order. You can laugh now but 2 years ago when I got my email I wasn't sure that I'd ever get one.

Mark Johnson made it clear on video that we shouldn't ask the question nor will CMP discuss any details.

waffles 04-11-2021 04:10 PM

While I definitely wish I hadn't procrastinated on getting my packet in early, I'm fairly confident I'll get one. My FFL got a pretty rad one as one of the last of the last batch, and getting mine later in the year (or next) will be nice for the budget.

pickax 04-11-2021 05:46 PM

Fenris Bane
You continue to speculate with the numbers, and confuse the whole process doing so.
Quote "these have to be inspected by the CMP first." is blatantly wrong.
All, speculation on the forum might be fun for some, but random is random.
We'll all get a pistol eventually.
So cool !

bpm32 04-11-2021 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickax (Post 2034606)
Fenris Bane
You continue to speculate with the numbers, and confuse the whole process doing so.
Quote "these have to be inspected by the CMP first." is blatantly wrong.
All, speculation on the forum might be fun for some, but random is random.
We'll all get a pistol eventually.
So cool !

I donít understand your commentóarenít all of the pistol inspected? I think Mark Johnson mentioned they got the guns highest rated by DLA first, so we might be into the lower grades that might need (hopefully just) minor work.

Parkr1942 04-11-2021 08:22 PM

Got RNG 224xx Sat 4-10.
Posted application Jan 7

Fenris_Bane 04-12-2021 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickax (Post 2034606)
Fenris Bane
You continue to speculate with the numbers, and confuse the whole process doing so.
Quote "these have to be inspected by the CMP first." is blatantly wrong.
All, speculation on the forum might be fun for some, but random is random.
We'll all get a pistol eventually.
So cool !

The statement that the pistols will be "inspect by the CMP first" is not speculation nor "blatantly wrong". Mark Johnson, Chief Operation Officer, CMP mentions three times in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cni5HSY4Uv8

Time stamp 2:38, "... we're about to start inspecting those ..."

Time stamp 3:15, "... we'll go through it, double check it, check it out, test fire it and then it is ready for sale."

Time stamp 3:57 "... of course we're assume all the parts will gage. We'll go through and verify that and we'll go ahead and check its functionality."

I believe the video clearly states what will happen when the CMP receives their FY shipments. The CMP will inspect them before sale. How long that takes is anyone's guess, but it took from May of 2018 to Nov of 2018 before the pistols from FY 18 actually started being sent out. Some of this time might have been necessary to finish the facilities.

The process is not confusing.

1) The Army sent the CMP 8,000 pistols initially.
2) The CMP inspected and if necessary repaired 8,000 pistols.
3) The CMP will starts Round 1 to issue random numbers.
3) CMP sold 8,000 pistols to members in random number order.
4) There were more random numbers issued than pistols available, the remain members had to wait until the next FY shipment.
5) There were more pistols than random numbers left, so Round 2 was started.

Number 5 was a guess, until the CMP started selling pistols to Round 2 members.

I don't know what the "bee in you bonnet" is all about. My speculations and opinions are just a valid as anyone else speculations are.

SIG4EVA 04-12-2021 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msmith5150 (Post 2034593)
Since it was supposed to be a completely random generated number draw it should not have mattered if you sent in your packet on day one or last minute.

We are working with an incomplete data set, but you can't find one person that submitted on 1/4 that got a RGN over 26,000. You also can't find a late Feb./early March submission under 25,000. I submitted late Feb. and was 29780. It will be interesting to see if that changes as we get more data.

mrerick 04-12-2021 09:25 AM

Packet Sent: 2/4/2021
RGN: 279xx
Expect Call: 12/15/2021
Expect Available Grades: All

Glynn863 04-12-2021 09:36 AM

Just an idea / comment. Everyone who qualifies during the open submission period gets a number. Then, those numbers, whether low, high, or in the middle, are randomly selected, a set batch quantity every day, until the numbers are exhausted. That way, people residing in the same household aren't assigned sequential numbers or the like, that has raised some speculation about the current RGN process. This way, anyone could "get the call" at any time, and maybe everyone would be satisfied. Again, just an idea / comment.

I have my RGN (298xx), so I'll patiently wait.

msmith5150 04-12-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIG4EVA (Post 2034744)
We are working with an incomplete data set, but you can't find one person that submitted on 1/4 that got a RGN over 26,000. You also can't find a late Feb./early March submission under 25,000. I submitted late Feb. and was 29780. It will be interesting to see if that changes as we get more data.

I saw that trend too, that's why I said "supposed to" and "should not have" in my statement ;)

My packet arrived on March 4th and my number is 30196

jukes_37207 04-12-2021 12:13 PM

RGN random generator
 
Let me start out by saying I sent in my packet on the 3rd of March but have received no RGN. My buddy sent his packet in from the same post office on the last day of eligibility and got his RGN back a week ago. The forum says if you have confirmed your packet was received, give it a couple of weeks. Every time I try to confirm if my packet was even received I get the wait till May message. Still donít know how to confirm if my packet was received. The other issue is that so many people in the forums stating when they put theirs in and what their RGN is, it seems obvious that packets were assigned RGNís as they arrived as all the earliest ones have the lowest RGNís. How is this random generation? If this is the case and I was told in advance, I would have had mine in the first day. Just trying to understand. Thanks for your time, patience and efforts. Joe.

ID-Garand 04-12-2021 12:31 PM

Sent my packet in at the last moment, and I'm number 31,◊◊◊ 😬 Assuming I'll get a call, maybe Dec. Or jan

msmith5150 04-12-2021 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jukes_37207 (Post 2034832)
Let me start out by saying I sent in my packet on the 3rd of March but have received no RGN. My buddy sent his packet in from the same post office on the last day of eligibility and got his RGN back a week ago. The forum says if you have confirmed your packet was received, give it a couple of weeks. Every time I try to confirm if my packet was even received I get the wait till May message. Still donít know how to confirm if my packet was received. The other issue is that so many people in the forums stating when they put theirs in and what their RGN is, it seems obvious that packets were assigned RGNís as they arrived as all the earliest ones have the lowest RGNís. How is this random generation? If this is the case and I was told in advance, I would have had mine in the first day. Just trying to understand. Thanks for your time, patience and efforts. Joe.

So you mailed it out on March 3rd for a March 4th deadline? If it went standard USPS and you live more than 100 miles away from them, then it probably didn't make it on time.

jwitten 04-12-2021 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msmith5150 (Post 2034869)
So you mailed it out on March 3rd for a March 4th deadline? If it went standard USPS and you live more than 100 miles away from them, then it probably didn't make it on time.

I believe it just has to be postmarked by the deadline

Mtz1598 04-12-2021 04:23 PM

Received the call today at 2:05pm mst.
My RGN# 20135 she asked me a few questions
I sent my FFL right away. She offered all three grades
I choose Field Grade and paid. Now I wait for it to be shipped. Some have
Asked what number they used to call it was the 256-770-4744. This the number listed
On their website. I had it in contacts under CMP 1911 so I would know when the call came and it worked perfect.

KH223 04-12-2021 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronwall (Post 2034960)
Thanks for posting the number. Mrs. Ronwall is RGN 20,27X so hopefully by the end of this week she'll get "the call"

Man, I am way behind you guys.............maybe by next week or the next I will get the call

crow 04-12-2021 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KH223 (Post 2035011)
Man, I am way behind you guys.............maybe by next week or the next I will get the call

A guy posted in one of the facebook groups today that he never received his RGN, but then CMP called him up asking him what pistol he'd like to order.
So you may still have an RGN and get "the call" without ever knowing your RGN.

Gary H 04-12-2021 07:00 PM

22305 July 3, 2021!

ZvenoMan 04-12-2021 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jukes_37207 (Post 2034832)
Every time I try to confirm if my packet was even received I get the wait till May message. Still donít know how to confirm if my packet was received.

CMP will not confirm arrival of your packet. If you used regular US Mail then there is no confirmation possible. If you used tracking (Priority mail, FedEx....) then you may confirm, on your own.

If it is postmarked before the deadline, wait patiently until May, THEN contact CMP.
If possibly you mailed after the deadline then re-read the rules and try again in round 3.

JH

mac1_131 04-12-2021 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mtz1598 (Post 2034954)
Received the call today at 2:05pm mst.

My RGN# 20135 she asked me a few questions

I sent my FFL right away. She offered all three grades

I choose Field Grade and paid. Now I wait for it to be shipped. Some have

Asked what number they used to call it was the 263-770-4744. This the number listed

On their website. I had it in contacts under CMP 1911 so I would know when the call came and it worked perfect.

You might want to fix that number.

mpdphil 04-12-2021 09:03 PM

I submitted my packet last minute (March 3rd, USPS priority mail) and got RGN 31711. I donít mind though, Iíve got time to save up for it.

ArizonaKid 04-13-2021 10:26 AM

How does the RGN process work?
 
Can someone please explain how the RGN process works?
Are all correctly completed applications, received by the deadline, assigned random number which then creates the order in which you get ďcalledĒ?
Or is your application assigned a number upon receipt and then calls are made by randomly selecting numbers?
Or???

If things are random, the odds of Mr & Mrs Dusty getting 2 sequential numbers and being called together would be, very very low, but admittedly not impossible.

So please, an official explanation of the process would squelch some of the very negative postings occurring outside of this forum which detract from the great work of CMP.
Thanks for clarifying.

[QUOTE=Dusty31;2035069]Mine:
Packet Sent: 4 Jan 2021 Fedex, arrived 5 Jan 2021
RGN Assigned: 4/6/21 - 20036
Date Contacted:4/7, called them back 4/8
Grades Offered: Service/Field/Rack
Shipped: 4/8
Received: 4/12
Manufacture Received: Remington Rand with Ithaca slide
Model received: 1911A1
Serial Number: (Optional)

Wife's:
Packet Sent: 4 Jan 2021 Fedex, arrived 5 Jan 2021
RGN Assigned: 4/6/21 - 20035
Date Contacted:4/7, called them back 4/8
Grades Offered: Service/Field/Rack
Shipped: 4/8
Received: 4/12
Manufacture Received: Remington Rand with Colt Slide
Model received: 1911A1
Serial Number: (Optional) 2221054

Beavis1971 04-13-2021 10:40 AM

The CMP doesn't owe anyone an explanation of how they do things. They are diligently working with a skeleton crew in order to process orders for the 1911/1911a1. From what I have seen there are an increasing number of whiners with regards to the RGN, the 1911 they have received, etc. If you don't like the process, don't do it. When you buy a lottery ticket and inevitably don't win, do you demand an audit every week? At this point I think that the CMP should have charged a small fee to enter the lottery for dealing with all of the crap. The CMP is comprised of great people. Let them do their job and if you have an RGN, you will eventually have the awesome opportunity to pick up a 1911/1911a1.

Steve-OH 04-13-2021 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beavis1971 (Post 2035201)
the cmp doesn't owe anyone an explanation of how they do things. They are diligently working with a skeleton crew in order to process orders for the 1911/1911a1. From what i have seen there are an increasing number of whiners with regards to the rgn, the 1911 they have received, etc. If you don't like the process, don't do it. When you buy a lottery ticket and inevitably don't win, do you demand an audit every week? At this point i think that the cmp should have charged a small fee to enter the lottery for dealing with all of the crap. The cmp is comprised of great people. Let them do their job and if you have an rgn, you will eventually have the awesome opportunity to pick up a 1911/1911a1.

hear hear!!!!!!!!

DWeso 04-13-2021 11:16 AM

The process has been explained over and over on this forum, by CMP admin.
Read more. Post less. It will be less stressful to you, and those that like to read these posts, to see the nice pistols being purchased through the CMP.

If the RGN process has caused you this much anguish, please call the CMP and tell them to void your RGN. Life is a series of random events that are not always fair. I am certain the CMP has done their best to make this process fair. Humans are involved, so I'm sure that the process is not perfect.

After almost two years of waiting in Round 1, I got my opportunity to buy one. During the wait, I would check this forum once or twice a week to get a ball park figure on how far away I was. I checked more often as my RGN got below 1000 away from being called. During the waiting time I educated myself about the process, and the pistols, by reading the older posts here in this forum.

I am adding a smiley face to indicate I mean well, with my humble advice. :)

Bravo to beavis1971 and Steve-OH !


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