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csm14thbn 02-16-2021 04:32 PM

My FOIA request from July.
 
Here is the response:

This letter is in response to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated July 10, 2020, reference number AMC FOIA # FP-21-003010/FA-21-0174.

The request is for ownership history on a Colt 1911 serial # 491461.

The following Information was found in the DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry for an M1911, Pistol Caliber .45, Automatic, NSN: 1005-00-726-5655, Serial Number: 491461. The records for this weapon are listed below in chronological order:

1. December 31, 1973 - The Alabama National Guard – Montgomery, Alabama registered the weapon into the DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry.

2. April 01, 1985 – The Alabama National Guard – Montgomery, Alabama shipped the weapon to the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

3. August 02, 1985 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Alabama National Guard – Montgomery, Alabama.

4. June 01, 1994 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the Center of Military History Museum Support Center, Anniston, Alabama.

5. December 20, 1994 – The Center of Military History Museum Support Center, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

6. April04,1995,January27,2003,February06,2003,Januar y26,2004, November 09, 2004, June 28, 2006, July 11, 2006, August 29, 2006, August 26, 2009, April 20, 2010, January 31, 2011, January 17, 2012, January 17, 2013, January 08, 2014, January 15, 2015, January 12, 2016, January 12, 2017 and January 06, 2018 – The Center of Military History Museum Support Center, Anniston, Alabama conducted annual weapon serial number reconciliations on the weapon.

7. January 29, 2018 – The Center of Military History Museum Support Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama.

8. January 29, 2018 – The United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Center of Military History Museum Support Center, Anniston, Alabama.

9. January 29, 2018 – The Tank Automotive and Armaments Command - Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon outside the DOD to the Civilian Marksmanship Program South - Anniston, Alabama.

Jakeroub 02-16-2021 04:35 PM

Outstanding! That goes much further back than other responses I’ve seen.

JustinandKim 02-16-2021 04:48 PM

Wow, I am envious and jealous that it has history with Alabama.

csm14thbn 02-16-2021 04:57 PM

The only other info i have so far was from a search in SRS from a member here:

“Between 10/15/18 and 10/29/18 it was shipped to either Bush Terminal or Greenville Piers.”

weimar_police 02-17-2021 10:30 AM

Very nice - as said, goes back much further than other letters

csm14thbn 02-17-2021 12:45 PM

I just received two more replies from requests back in June/July
This pistol was marked A 11 83 and had a Remington frame and slide.

This letter is in response to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated July 11, 2020, reference number AMC FOIA # FP-21-003025/FA-21-0180. The request is for ownership history on a Remington 1911A1 Pistol, serial number 15264xx.
The following Information was found in the DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry for an M1911A1, Pistol Caliber .45, Automatic, NSN: 1005-00-726-5655, Serial Number: 15264xx. The records for this weapon are listed below in chronological order:

1. January 13, 1988 - The Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, Albany, Georgia shipped the weapon to the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

2. February 03, 1988 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, Albany, Georgia.

3. January 26, 1991 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the Director of Logistics (DOL) Supply and Services, Fort Benning, Georgia.

4. February 19, 1991 – The Director of Logistics (DOL) Supply and Services, Fort Benning, Georgia received the weapon from the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

5. October 29, 1991 – The Director of Logistics (DOL) Supply and Services, Fort Benning, Georgia shipped the weapon to the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

6. January 04, 1992 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Director of Logistics (DOL) Supply and Services, Fort Benning, Georgia.


7. February 27, 1999 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama.

8. February 27, 1999 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

9. September 08, 2000, January 31, 2003, January 29, 2004, January 23, 2005, February 12, 2006, January 29, 2007, January 27, 2008, January 25, 2009, January 24, 2010, March 06, 2011, December 03, 2011, January 19, 2013, March 07, 2015, May 01, 2016, March 05, 2017, and June 04, 2017; the DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama conducted annual weapon serial number reconciliations on the weapon.

10. February 02, 2018 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama.

11. February 02, 2018 – The United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama.

12. February 02, 2018 – The Tank Automotive and Armaments Command - Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon outside the DOD to the Civilian Marksmanship Program South - Anniston, Alabama.

csm14thbn 02-17-2021 12:46 PM

This pistol was marked LEAD and had an Ithaca frame and slide.

This letter is in response to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated July 11, 2020, reference number AMC FOIA # FP-21-003023/FA-21-0179. The request is for ownership history on an Ithaca 1911A1 Pistol, serial number 18203xx.
The following Information was found in the DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry for an M1911A1, Pistol Caliber .45, Automatic, NSN: 1005-00-726-5655, Serial Number: 18203xx. The records for this weapon are listed below in chronological order:

1. March 21, 1975 - The Installation Supply Director of Logistics (DOL) Fort Campbell, Kentucky registered the weapon into the DoD Small Arms/Light Weapons Registry.

2. January 06, 1992 – The Installation Supply Director of Logistics (DOL) Fort Campbell, Kentucky shipped the weapon to the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

3. February 26, 1992 – Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Installation Supply Director of Logistics (DOL) Fort Campbell, Kentucky.

4. February 27, 1999 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama.

5. February 27, 1999 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.

6. September 08, 2000, January 31, 2003, January 29, 2004, January 23, 2005, February 12, 2006, January 29, 2007, January 27, 2008, January 25, 2009, January 24, 2010, March 06, 2011, December 03, 2011, January 19, 2013, March 07, 2015, May 01, 2016, March 05, 2017 and June 04, 2017 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama conducted annual weapon serial number reconciliations on the weapon.

7. February 02, 2018 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama.

8. February 02, 2018 – The United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama.

9. February 02, 2018 – The Tank Automotive and Armaments Command - Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon outside the DOD to the Civilian Marksmanship Program South - Anniston, Alabama.


USS Washington 02-17-2021 02:30 PM

My Colt 1911 (JUN 1918) has a FOIA history record which includes the The Center of Military History Museum at both Fort Belvoir and Anniston. Would I be mistaken if I associate my CMP pistol as one that came through the Army museum system which is often referenced in this forum? If so, why would so many pistols be retain for museums? Also, the recent video post of the CMP tour by the GCA recorded a number of older nice 1911's.

UncleBilly 02-17-2021 03:50 PM

nice background on your pistol............

I bought my ITHACA M1911A1 22 years or so back, at a gun show....I wouldn't dare do a FOIA on that, it'll probably come up;

October 29, 1991 - reported stolen from Ft. XXXXX :D

Dr. Bill 02-17-2021 09:26 PM

Help?
 
Where did you send your FOIA request? I am looking for Remington Rands serial Number 1298523
Which was my issued Pistol, as a member of the 298th M.P. Detachment, located at Hunter Army Airfield, located in Savanna Georgia, circa 1981...

God Bless...

Bill

csm14thbn 02-17-2021 09:53 PM

https://www.foia.army.mil

I submitted the request online back in July

I requested the history of ownership and any records pertaining to (make, serial#)

W9IXI.MN 02-17-2021 10:27 PM

For Uss Washington, this May answer why your weapon went to the museum folks: https://www.army.mil/article/238770/...s_army_museums

microwaveguy 02-19-2021 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csm14thbn (Post 2016566)
https://www.foia.army.mil

I submitted the request online back in July

I requested the history of ownership and any records pertaining to (make, serial#)


Could you confirm the above web address?
I am not able to get that to load on my browser.

Kerwin Law 02-19-2021 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by microwaveguy (Post 2017024)
Could you confirm the above web address?
I am not able to get that to load on my browser.

Same here

csm14thbn 02-19-2021 09:19 PM

Try this link

https://www.foia.gov/request/agency-...-467fe92c3021/

Kerwin Law 02-20-2021 11:20 AM

Thank you

waynewash 02-22-2021 01:02 PM

Thank you

West_Coaster 02-23-2021 05:56 PM

Response to FOIA request
 
Here is the response to my FOIA request submitted last August for the 1939 Navy Colt M1911A1 I won at auction from the CMP (there are no rebuild marks on it and came with like-new park):

1. January 06, 1988 – The Marine Corps Logistics Base, Albany, Georgia shipped
the weapon to the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.
2. February 02, 1988 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama received
the weapon from the Marine Corps Logistics Base, Albany, Georgia.
3. February 27, 1999 – The Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama shipped
the weapon to the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) Distribution - Anniston,
Anniston, Alabama.
4. February 27, 1999 – The DLA Distribution Anniston, Anniston, Alabama received
the weapon from the Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama.
5. September 08, 2000 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama
conducted an annual weapon serial number reconciliation on the weapon.
6. January 17, 2003 – The DLA Distribution Anniston, Anniston, Alabama shipped
the weapon to the Concept Evaluation Support Agency, Lexington, Kentucky.
7. February 08, 2003 – The Concept Evaluation Support Agency, Lexington,
Kentucky received the weapon from the DLA Distribution Anniston, Anniston,
Alabama.
8. June 21, 2003 – The DLA Distribution Anniston, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the Concept Evaluation Support Agency, Lexington, Kentucky.
9. January 23, 2005, February 12, 2006, January 29, 2007, January 27, 2008, January 25, 2009, January 24, 2010, March 06, 2011, December 03, 2011, January 19, 2013, March 07, 2015, May 01, 2016, March 05, 2017, June 04, 2017 and March 31, 2019 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama conducted annual weapon serial number reconciliations on the weapon.
10. September 26, 2019 – The DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon to the United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama.
11. October 10, 2019 – The United States Army Tank Automotive and Armaments Command, Anniston, Alabama received the weapon from the DLA Distribution - Anniston, Anniston, Alabama.
12. October 18, 2019 – The Tank Automotive and Armaments Command - Anniston, Alabama shipped the weapon outside the DOD to the Civilian Marksmanship Program South - Anniston, Alabama.

It travelled around a bit from 1988.

tcross8361 02-27-2021 11:59 AM

This is really cool. I'm going to try it for my Remington Rand. What should I put in the "fee waiver" blocks? Especially the "amount of money you're willing to pay field?

tcross8361 02-27-2021 12:07 PM

I wonder if this would work for a Garand and a 1903.

csm14thbn 02-27-2021 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcross8361 (Post 2020118)
I wonder if this would work for a Garand and a 1903.

It will but it will most likely be generic info like we are getting with the 1911s. Someone just posted their results on the garand section.

tcross8361 02-27-2021 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csm14thbn (Post 2020120)
It will but it will most likely be generic info like we are getting with the 1911s. Someone just posted their results on the garand section.


Very cool! I'm going to go check that out. I submited them. We'll see what happens.

sergeant major 02-28-2021 10:21 AM

I submitted a FOIA in February 2020 and received an answer in June 2020. My CMP Ithaca/Ithaca was originally shipped to Benicia Ordnance Depot - Army Point California July 27, 1944. At that time it was transferred to the USMC. Then it appears in the registry January 6, 1988 as a shipment by the Marine Corps Logistics Base Albany, Albany, Georgia to Anniston Munitions Center, Anniston, Alabama where it was received February 2, 1988. At that time there is a long list of serial number reconciliations on the weapon until it was shipped to CMP on February 2, 2018. February 26, 2019 I was the lucky recipient of the weapon. Although I'm a retired Army Sergeant Major, I now am the keeper of this US Marine Corps history and very proud to own it. Would love to know about it's USMC career.

tazaroo 02-28-2021 07:13 PM

I'll be following this thread.

46R40 03-16-2021 10:58 PM

Did you guys direct your FOIA request to Dept of Army? DLA?

Thanks!

csm14thbn 03-19-2021 01:16 PM

I sent mine to the army

weimar_police 03-19-2021 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcross8361 (Post 2020114)
This is really cool. I'm going to try it for my Remington Rand. What should I put in the "fee waiver" blocks? Especially the "amount of money you're willing to pay field?

I think I put like $25 - just because it was worth it to me.

I originally requested it and was sent to another angency, then the same GSA employee answered me that answered many folks. He is very busy.

The guys that got info before the 80's is really nice. Mine came out of Japan, so assume it was sent there with a unit post-war (could ahve been in the 60's or 70's for all I know).

ed

46R40 03-19-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csm14thbn (Post 2027229)
I sent mine to the army

Thank you, CSM. I sent my request to DLA thinking the Loggies would have the info. They kept telling me it was too nebulous and beyond their scope.

I’ll give DA a shot.

Danny 03-19-2021 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csm14thbn (Post 2027229)
I sent mine to the army

Where in the form do you specify this? What about records that might pertain to the USMC or other branches?

46R40 03-20-2021 06:15 PM

I just wanted to verify, is this the link you guys are using for the FOIA request?

https://www.rmda.army.mil/FOIARequest/default.aspx

I thought I looked at another link the other night but can't seem to find it again.

Danny 03-20-2021 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 46R40 (Post 2027525)
I just wanted to verify, is this the link you guys are using for the FOIA request?

https://www.rmda.army.mil/FOIARequest/default.aspx

I thought I looked at another link the other night but can't seem to find it again.

That is not the one that was listed. It is listed above. One person said that they had sent it to "da Army", but when I asked about sending to them, there was no response (so far). I had sent a few Garand queries to the other link and will now send some to your link to see what happens


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