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la Fiere 01-12-2019 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ceresco (Post 1792212)
Don't need a flash hider and the adjustable stocks (spring and buffer) weigh less than the A2 stock... The old A1 upper without the forward assist and deflector is lighter... Short barrel, aluminum barrel nut and light free float HG..... Lots of options. Good Shooting. .....



Good advice, thanks.



I'm perplexed why my rifle weighs as much as it does. Looking at the PSA "Classic" on their website it seems to be more or less the same as mine, but is listed at 6.5#.

Herzo 01-12-2019 10:28 PM

Just checked my 16" M4gery, 7.2# with sling and adjustable stock. Plan to put floated tube on it, might add an ounce, would like to know if I will need to swap the gas block to a GI front sight. I assume that the removable carry handle will pass muster.

3006 01-12-2019 10:29 PM

My new SAI std (wood) weights 9 pd 1.7 oz, so I removed the folding butt plate pc now I’m under 9 pounds. Mine has a NM frt sight also, can’t believe that moves you to unlimited. Windy City has GI std front sights for $19

ceresco 01-12-2019 10:39 PM

M14 weight is listed as 9.1# with cleaning kit. Without the FA parts?? CMP is not going to DQ a standard M1A or M14 clone on weight. There are many stock options that can reduce weight. An outstanding offhand can keep a M14 in the game. Good Shooting. ...

FF1915 01-12-2019 10:43 PM

Don't need a flash hider and the adjustable stocks (spring and buffer) weigh less than the A2 stock... The old A1 upper without the forward assist and deflector is lighter... Short barrel, aluminum barrel nut and light free float HG..... Lots of options

While all this is true, I’m of the mindset that this way of operating is what got me into this mess in the first place. Folks started buying match barrels and cutting them down, milling slots in the receivers, aluminum barrel nuts.... Next thing you know here comes another rule change. And yes parts are not as expensive as they have been but not everyone has disposable income to keep up with the guys trying to bend the rules. Thankfully I don’t fall into that category. All I would like to see is a level playing field and allow all “standard” rifles.

FF1915 01-12-2019 10:44 PM

3006
As I stand here the front sight earned me a different color zip tie.

Talyn1 01-12-2019 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TW56 (Post 1792213)
1985 Colt Sporter II with 20" 1/7 twist barrel, A1 upper, no case deflector, tear drop forward assist, round handguards with heat shields weighs exactly 7.2 pounds with a silent sling attached.

+1. Based on all that I figure I'll be OK with my A2 upper w/a 20" Govt profile. I don't think the A2 sights & case deflector will weigh 4.8 oz. But I'll weigh it once completed.

HighpowerRifleBrony 01-13-2019 12:23 AM

My M4gery with UTG Pro FF quadrail, DCH, and web sling is 7.5lbs +/-0.25lb, according to my vintage grocery scale.

dw617 01-13-2019 07:05 AM

Looks like my Bula M14 and Colt AR15A2 HBAR are both out....

WRT to UMM

Combining the new MM rule of float tube and UMM rule of no weight limit, it appears I can shoot my AR15 Service Rifle? I wouldn't, but guys who shot MM last year and get "bumped" into UMM have this to complete next to?

rickgman 01-13-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ceresco (Post 1792229)
M14 weight is listed as 9.1# with cleaning kit. Without the FA parts?? CMP is not going to DQ a standard M1A or M14 clone on weight. There are many stock options that can reduce weight. An outstanding offhand can keep a M14 in the game. Good Shooting. ...

To quote M14 spec weights is not telling the story relative to SAI M1A's. The SAI specs state that a standard M1A with a walnut stock weighs in at 9.3 lbs (on average). You can get to 8.8 lbs with a plastic stock but they are well known for deteriorating accuracy. As someone earlier suggested, replacing the buttplate might do the trick but it would be best to actually weigh one's rifle to ensure it will make weight. The density of each stock varies.


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