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ceresco 01-12-2019 08:20 PM

While the rules allow A&B to be separated, I have never seen this done. I think you will see MM (A&B) and MM Unlimited. At least, with the scopes in unlimited, your M14 has a chance. Good Shooting. ...

FF1915 01-12-2019 09:07 PM

So hereís my thing. I am glad they changed the rules. However I must admit I was a bit perturbed when reading the new rules and here is why. I purchased a rifle when I thought I wanted to start competing. The last rule change pushed it out of competition so I purchased a rockriver ďstandard A4.Ē Now itís out of competition for the stock class due to weight. Iím glad I donít have to compete with those who tried to push the rules to the limit as they will now be in the unlimited class. My problem is I have to buy yet another rifle.

la Fiere 01-12-2019 09:39 PM

I just weighed my MM rifle - 20" GI contour barrel - 8.2# as pictured (but without the sling).

Seems like the only way to make 7.5# would be with a 16" barrel.

ceresco 01-12-2019 09:44 PM

AR parts have never been cheaper. Buy what you need and rebuild one of your rifles to make the weight limit. I've lost count of the MM AR uppers I've built keeping up with the rule changes. At least I still have a HB A2 carbine upper...but now it needs a free float HG. Neverending. Good Shooting. ...

Talyn1 01-12-2019 09:45 PM

Vendors weights are all over the place. DPMS lists their weight at 9 lbs. with an HBAR barrel.

PSA lists their classic at 6.5 lbs. and Windham Weaponry lists their A2 Classic at 7.7 lbs., both with A4 Flat Top Uppers and 20" Govt-profile barrels.

Add the two weights & divide by 2 = 7.1 lbs. ;)

When I get my new A2 carry handle w/20" Govt-profile barrel build built it should be lighter than a flat-top upper. When done I'll weigh mine on a digital scale.

ceresco 01-12-2019 09:52 PM

Don't need a flash hider and the adjustable stocks (spring and buffer) weigh less than the A2 stock... The old A1 upper without the forward assist and deflector is lighter... Short barrel, aluminum barrel nut and light free float HG..... Lots of options. Good Shooting. .....

TW56 01-12-2019 09:55 PM

1985 Colt Sporter II with 20" 1/7 twist barrel, A1 upper, no case deflector, tear drop forward assist, round handguards with heat shields weighs exactly 7.2 pounds with a silent sling attached.

rickgman 01-12-2019 09:56 PM

I predict that these latest changes will not create more confusion and frustration than anyone can imagine. The weight limits force way too many rifles into the unlimited classification. A standard M1A with a walnut stock is now over weight.

FF1915 01-12-2019 09:59 PM

I have a hard enough time with length of pull and my beard gets hung up in the collapsible stocks lol.

FF1915 01-12-2019 10:01 PM

Not mention the standard Springfield M1A isn’t legal with the front sight supplied with the rifle. Found that out at the 600 after I drove 450 miles.

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