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Old 10-12-2021, 06:02 PM
letenn letenn is offline
 
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I have a Springfield Armory GI Model that I shoot regularly, so I'm not interested in a "new" looking CMP pistol. Sounds like Field is the way to go.
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Old 10-12-2021, 09:00 PM
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Iím hoping to get a field grade or rack grade with an original finish thatís not too brown from age. Iím not a fan of the refinished service grades.
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:47 PM
69Shelby 69Shelby is offline
 
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I was bound determined to pick a field grade given the chance.
When I got the call - all 3 grades were availableÖ I flinched and
went for the Service grade haha. Iím totally happy with my Service Grade
but deep down regret not going for the Field Grade. I prefer the worn
finish as opposed to the fresh park. Iíve seen some nice Field Grades
posted here. I havenít seen or heard of any ďrattle traps ď that many of the
naysayers were predicting we were going to get.
I think the CMP folks have done a great job!
Thank you CMP
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:36 AM
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I was bound determined to pick a field grade given the chance.
When I got the call - all 3 grades were availableÖ I flinched and
went for the Service grade haha. Iím totally happy with my Service Grade
but deep down regret not going for the Field Grade. I prefer the worn
finish as opposed to the fresh park. Iíve seen some nice Field Grades
posted here. I havenít seen or heard of any ďrattle traps ď that many of the
naysayers were predicting we were going to get.
I think the CMP folks have done a great job!
Thank you CMP
If it makes you feel any better, choosing a Field Grade is no guarantee that you won't get a fresh parked finish. My FG was rebuilt (including park job) in '78 at Anniston and apparently put in storage until released to CMP. It looks just like, well, a freshly parked Service Grade.
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:47 AM
ZvenoMan ZvenoMan is online now
 
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Read the grade descriptions!
All 3 grades may be refinished.

The grades are focused on function and serviceability, NOT collectability and finish.
So read the descriptions, do not read into them and make a decision based on that info.

My service grade was not refinished, and some rack grades are refinished.
Set your expectations using facts and you will not be disappointed.

JH
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:49 PM
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My first round Service Grade Remington Rand 1911A1 was not only refinished, but the lanyard loop was bent, there were a few serious dings in the slide and it has a replacement barrel. The grips had obviously been on the pistol for a long time.

It has a kind of loose fitting of slide to frame and the barrel is loose in the slide. But, I still look at it and wonder were the heck it has been, who carried it and what part in Military History did it play. With all of that, it runs like a champ and shoots fine.

I would not trade it for anything. Many thanks for Those who carried it before I got it in 2019 and many thanks to the CMP for making it happen.
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:20 PM
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My first round Service Grade Remington Rand 1911A1 was not only refinished, but the lanyard loop was bent, there were a few serious dings in the slide and it has a replacement barrel. The grips had obviously been on the pistol for a long time.

It has a kind of loose fitting of slide to frame and the barrel is loose in the slide. But, I still look at it and wonder were the heck it has been, who carried it and what part in Military History did it play. With all of that, it runs like a champ and shoots fine.

I would not trade it for anything. Many thanks for Those who carried it before I got it in 2019 and many thanks to the CMP for making it happen.
Great perspective!
FBN
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:20 PM
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I think the grading system is needed, but no guarantee of getting something, whether newer finish or not - IMHO - I'd love one without a new finish ( that is what I got, but it still looks very much like one I carried).
As said above, some pitting could make it go from a service to a field.

I always think, if I was on the team that went through thousands of guns, I am sure that my judging of each piece would vary every case of pistols. It happens when you are going through each one, making a judgement and putting a tag on them.
A very unappreciated task, I am sure.
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Old 10-13-2021, 03:25 PM
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I always think, if I was on the team that went through thousands of guns, I am sure that my judging of each piece would vary every case of pistols. It happens when you are going through each one, making a judgement and putting a tag on them.
A very unappreciated task, I am sure.
I don't think it would be that hard.
CMP's criteria is clear, and it's pretty much what was used in the military (or like the CMP Garands); based on quantitative facts and measurements.

As many have said, it favors shooters, NOT collectors.

If CMP were to grade for shooters AND collectors, how many item numbers would be needed, a few dozen?
For each Mfg you would need:
Rack-Field-Service
Slide Mfg match frame Yes/No
Refinish Yes/No Or 3: original finish, fresh repark, worn refinish?)
Arsenal rebuild mark Yes/No (or 1 item number per common mark?)

That's just a start.
How much labor, time and cost would that add to the process? (don't answer, CMP already reviewed and decided)

CMP certainly reviewed something like this and gave us the grades we have.
For those who must have collector's choices it's not a problem, the secondary market is for you. CMP's 1911 program, simply doesn't allow that.
Much like the DCM Garand program; you ordered a Garand and that's what you got, after a year or so.
How many here talk about how great THAT was!

JH
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:38 PM
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I picked a field grade and got a matching 1945 RR with original finish.
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