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Old 10-31-2021, 09:47 AM
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Agree on Mr. Cunningham. I've read a lot of his work. It's fascinating.
The two I ordered arrived a couple weeks ago and I haven't been home yet to even open the CMP box they arrived in.

Couple questions:
1) Are the scabbards & bayonets packed separately?

2) A little confused on how the bayonets are packaged. Can I open the package for inspection and then somehow reseal them for protection? If so, how?

Thanks for the guidance. First time dealing with sealed USGI anything.


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Mr Cunningham suggested that I should open the box the repacks were in to inspect the scabbards for any rust. The scabbards were not sealed but wrapped in rust resistant wrapping. Mr Cunningham suggested to keep the bayonets sealed as the bayonets had never been issued but the manufacturer could be had by the NSN number stamped on the package.
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Old 10-31-2021, 10:12 AM
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As pictured on the estore, it says M8 on the throat but it does have the metal hanger!! We need Gary now!!

http://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/PB008M7
The two I bought at the NS neither scabbard had the metal hangers. I thought that these were rare compared to the ones with the hangers. I know nothing about these....
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Old 10-31-2021, 10:25 AM
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The four I bought last month were all M8A1 scabbards with metal hangers and the "shoelace"

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Old 10-31-2021, 10:31 AM
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The four I bought last month were all M8A1 scabbards with metal hangers and the "shoelace"

Bill
I just ordered another one. Can't go wrong for $42, and maybe score an M8!
I also saw these in the e store and put one in the basket too.
https://estore.thecmp.org/Catalog/Item/548
Never seen these available, made in the USA with broken Garand stock handles.
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Old 10-31-2021, 11:41 AM
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Tne one i got thurs was manufactured in 8/69, repacked 3/77 with a M8A1 with metal hangers and shoe lace. M8A1 looks good with no rust,possible nos. Left m7 sealed. Would love to know the manufacturer without opeing, what and where is the nsn #? Ordered couple more
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Old 10-31-2021, 11:48 AM
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This is from Gary’s bayonet points #6

Scabbard, Trench Knife, M8 shown with a Knife, Trench, M3 on a Belt, Pistol and Revolver, M1936. Inset shows a closeup of the marking on the throat. Note that unlike the M3 and M7, the contractor's initials are marked on the throat.

Within a few months complaints came in from using services about the fact that the M8 scabbard would not fit the rifle belt. To satisfy this complaint, the M8 was modified by adding a double hook to the top of the web hanger. Since the sewing necessary to retain the hook would narrow the opening in the webbing to the extent that it no longer would slide over the pistol or other similar belt, the hanger was lengthened so the remaining loop was the same size as the loop on the M8, allowing the hanger to be slid over a belt if desired. This resulted in a change of nomenclature for a short time to Scabbard, Trench Knife, M8A1, and after the issue of the M4 bayonet, to Scabbard, Bayonet-Knife, M8A1. Although the official nomenclature was changed upon adoption in April 1944 it was some time later that the stamping on the face of the throat was changed, so there were many new-made M8A1 scabbards that were still marked M8.
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Old 10-31-2021, 09:25 PM
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Here are my two bayonets. Still sealed.
Any help with identification appreciated.
Thanks!
https://imgur.com/a/8HHQ5LE
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Old 11-01-2021, 08:31 AM
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Tne one i got thurs was manufactured in 8/69, repacked 3/77 with a M8A1 with metal hangers and shoe lace. M8A1 looks good with no rust,possible nos. Left m7 sealed. Would love to know the manufacturer without opeing, what and where is the nsn #? Ordered couple more
NSN on all of these should be the same, regardless of manufacturer. What might be different would be the manufacturer or CAGE code. The CAGE code would be a five place alpha-numeric code.
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Old 11-01-2021, 09:44 AM
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Here are my two bayonets. Still sealed.
Any help with identification appreciated.
Thanks!
https://imgur.com/a/8HHQ5LE
That contract is by Bauer Ordnance Corporation (BOC). BOC was the largest maker of M7's.


The M8A1 scabbard is made by the Working Blind (TWB). They are the same company as the PWH marked scabbards (Pennsylvania Working Home for the Blind), they changed their name towards the end of the Vietnam war production.

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Old 11-01-2021, 01:45 PM
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That's great info on Bauer.
From a World of Bayonets article, TWB produced ~22% of M8A1 scabbards. Yes, same group as PWH but stamped differently.
So it looks like my two are a mixed bag with the Bauer bayo as most common and TWB scabbard as not so common.

https://imgur.com/a/uTfzNH8

Next question; what's the value hit if I cut open the sealed bags?

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That contract is by Bauer Ordnance Corporation (BOC). BOC was the largest maker of M7's.


The M8A1 scabbard is made by the Working Blind (TWB). They are the same company as the PWH marked scabbards (Pennsylvania Working Home for the Blind), they changed their name towards the end of the Vietnam war production.
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