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Old 02-14-2021, 07:08 PM
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It's a rebuilt rifle with later updates and a replacement barrel. I think you can do better for $1300. The shop has a business to run for sure, but I see better deals out there even in the current market.
Ok, thanks for the feedback! Right, the price seemed a little high to me. I didn't know if there was something special about this particular gun I was missing that made it worth $1300. Yeah, I haven't seen much locally and the gun shows in the Northern Virginia area where I would normally go to look keep getting cancelled due to COVID.
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Old 02-14-2021, 07:18 PM
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Barrel is a Springfield Armory from December 1950. M1 carbines with SA barrels are not common. Appears the Carbine was rebuilt during the Korean war. $1300.00 seems high.
At $1150.00 sounds more in line.
Ok, I thought so on the barrel. The price did seem high to me as well. The gun store is mainly modern guns, so I was surprised to see the M1 Carbine up on a wall tucked behind the corner of a pillar in the middle of the room. One of the guys working there saw me looking at it and told me it had just been traded in and an expert on M1 Carbines had just happened to be in the store at the same time. He said the M1 Carbine guy said it was a Vietnam era barrel and rebuild which on the surface didn't make sense to me because of what looked like a 12 50 date on the barrel itself, but I don't profess to know much about M1 Carbines either so I didn't say anything about it. Thank you for the feedback!
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Old 02-14-2021, 07:22 PM
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Sling is for a Garand.
Looks good though. What was the ME?
are mags is good condition ?
I'd say $1200 maxl
The gun did look good. Of all (4) M1 Carbines I've been able to physically handle in the past 6 months, this one outwardly looked the best to me. No idea on ME/TE. I do have a set of CMP ME/TE gauges for Garands, but I did not have the ME tool with me at the store (I was there to pick up an AR-15 lower). There was no mag with the gun and I did not ask to see the mags (probably should have). Yeah, $1300 seemed a little high to me. Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 02-14-2021, 07:50 PM
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Have you looked at other venues to see what $1300 buys you? From what I am seeing on the online auction sites $1000 to $1500 is the new normal. The glossy finish on the stock is no big deal to remove. The case, sling and mags if GI are another $50-$75 if you have to buy them separate. Others have commented that $1150 or $1200 is the max. To me $100 or $150 is not enough to be a deal breaker.
I've only glanced at gunbroker a few times. I don't know if I'm asking the impossible - but what I had in mind was a shooter grade mixmaster for around $1000. What I have been using for reference (in absence of being able to go to a gun show in Northern Virginia since they keep getting cancelled due to COVID) are the ones for sale in local gun shops, the ones for sale by RTI, the ones in the Cabela's online catalog of used guns, and the handful that get listed here on the forums in the M1 Carbine parts FS/FT section. RTI has Inland M1 Carbines from Ethiopia for $1199, but it feels to me like too much of a gamble - some folks have reported receiving great rifles, but some have said they were in terrible shape. The cheapest one at Cabela's is $1699 but to my untrained eye I don't think it is worth that much. Locally, I have seen an Auto-Ordnance repro for $1100 (I'm really looking for USGI production not modern reproduction), a Saginaw in rough shape for $2599, the Inland mentioned in this thread (best I've seen cosmetically in person), and what to me was a highly suspect Quality HMC gun. The Quality HMC did not have a rear sight at all, no mag, the serial number was 5xxx and it looked like the rear of the receiver had the original makers mark and serial ground off and the new 4 digit serial was re-stamped by hand. When I asked about it, the store worker told me it was probably captured by the Germans in WWII who would re-serial number captured weapons they used. He also said it was in an M2 stock and it had a drilled and tapped hole on the left side of the receiver near the chamber above the woodline. That store was asking $950 for that one but I passed on it.

How would you go about removing the glossy finish?

Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 02-14-2021, 07:58 PM
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I say 1K would be a good deal and is actually what its worth IMO as long as the bore is excellent.

Wouldnt pay a dime over that....
Thanks for the feedback! That is the price I had in mind - around $1000. I'm not sure if the store would budge though. Whatever factor(s) may be causing it, there is definitely a gun buying panic in my area. For example, I have also been looking for a Yugo M59/66 SKS. I follow a local store on facebook and saw an SKS on their wall at their store in one of their posts. I went in to check it out and was shocked to see it listed for $999.99. I remember when Yugo SKSs were under $100 (and still kick myself for not buying one then). Empire Arms has recently listed some for sale in the $500 range. I thought the local Yugo SKS was way overpriced and would sit for a while, but 2 days later it was gone, so someone paid up for it. If the Inland M1 hasn't already sold over the weekend, I'm sure someone will pay the $1300 for it.
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Old 02-14-2021, 08:00 PM
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I agree with the others that $1300 seems high. See if you can haggle them down a bit. But carbines seem to be seen for sale less and less. Maybe this is the new normal?
Thanks for the feedback! I too thought $1300 seemed high. I've only seriously been looking for about 6 months, but I don't see them for sale often. I can only imagine they will continue to increase in value, so I am trying to get into one sooner rather than later.
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:24 PM
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I'm not saying it is a good deal. I personally would pass on it, but it would be interesting if everyone telling you the price is too high could point you to the rifle you are seeking for $1000, or one they do consider to be worth $1300.
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Old 02-17-2021, 03:33 PM
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I disagree with most of you when I say 1300 is to high. How many carbines have you seen for sale lately. Yes, RTI imported a bunch lately, but they are mostly gone and they were worn, beat to death, import marked, etc. I didn't think they were worth what they wanted for them, but then, I have a basement full of them. Think ahead a little, yesterdays and I literally mean yesterday, prices are not what's current today. As they say, you ain't seen nothing yet. Powder this am 50.00 a pound! You have to be kidding me!
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Old 03-03-2021, 12:39 AM
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Default Bought the Carbine!

So I ended up going back to the local gun store and the carbine was still there. I brought my CMP ME tool this time and the ME measured out at just over 1. I also brought my bore light and the bore looked good. The accessories included with the carbine were 3 magazines (instead of the 2 listed on the tag) and a modern Boyt soft case. 1 magazine is a 15 round marked "G-Q" which I believe is an original, the other 2 are 30 round magazines marked "MADE IN U.S.A" which I think are modern/reproduction. The store was asking $1300 but we ended up settling on $1250.

While $1300 seemed high to myself and others here initially, I re-looked the comps - RTI for $1224 with shipping (and not knowing what you'd get condition wise) and auction sites selling for $1200-$1300 with around $40-$50 for shipping. With that in mind and this example not having any import marks, I decided to pull the trigger and buy it since $1250 was in the same ballpark. The only real downside for me was the glossy finish on the stock.

After getting the carbine home I tried some 0000 steel wool on the stock to see if I could knock some of the shine off. That didn't really work and the spot I tried just ended up becoming cloudy. I then decided to go the route of refinishing the stock. I went with Citristrip to take the glossy finish off. I don't know what kind of gloss finish was on the stock, but it took 3 x 24 hour Citristrip applications to get all the gloss loose enough the scrape off with a plastic scraper. I then gently used an ultra-fine scotch-brite pad and 0000 steel wool to clean the stock up before applying 3 coats of BLO. I am very happy with how the finish turned out and am thrilled with my first M1 Carbine!!!

Here are some pics: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...Iw?usp=sharing

I also wanted to say thanks again to everyone here on the forum for their input and advice!
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Old 03-03-2021, 01:43 AM
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I'm glad the got the carbine and glad that you're happy with your purchase.
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