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Old 05-11-2021, 07:23 PM
fartblossom1953 fartblossom1953 is offline
 
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Default Magnum primers any need with Varget?

Trying to save my last four pounds of 4064 so I want to start on the Varget I've had for a while. Are magnum primers any help in 30-06 or just run the BR-2's I have been with the 4064? I'm shooting the 155 Sierra HPBT's with 4064 and a mild load now.
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Old 05-11-2021, 08:19 PM
ceresco ceresco is online now
 
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I say use mag primers. There is no downside and several reasons to do so. VarGet may be an "exreme" powder, but it does not ignite easily. Hodgdon says not to reduce VarGet loads. When you use even a slightly reduced load, problems with inconsistent burn surface. Magnum primers cost no more than standard, are insurance in cold weather and may reduce velocity variation. I don't know if a difference will show up on a 200yd target but I say "why not?? Besides that; CCI 34s are a magnum primer and I do use them for M1 and M14 type rifles anyway. Good Shooting. ...

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Old 05-11-2021, 08:40 PM
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It's never been my experience that Varget needs magnum primers, but in this day and time, sometimes you have to use what you have. I doubt you will see much difference, just watch for anything different as you work up your new loads, as you normally (should) would.
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Old 05-11-2021, 10:39 PM
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I don't think it matters in your situation. If you have magnum primers just work up your load with them.

You didn't mention what type of rifle you're loading for, but BR primers may not be a good idea for Garand rounds.
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Old 05-12-2021, 09:19 AM
fartblossom1953 fartblossom1953 is offline
 
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I have been using the same 4064 (standard) load for Garand, 03/a3, and 1917 always using BR2's or cci 200's with great accuracy. I am VERY careful that all primers are below flush and I ride the bolt half way when single loading the Garand. Not having shot the load across the course I don't know of any problems at the longer ranges.
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Old 05-12-2021, 09:31 AM
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Standard primers are fine with Varget and other extruded powders like 4895, 4064 etc. in the 30-06 size case.
Been using stick with standard primers since the 70's and always lights off! Varget not as long, but regular primers never failed me.

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Old 05-12-2021, 05:59 PM
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I've had hang fires with Varget in 30/06 cases in cooler weather with 150gr + bullets. I don't use mag primers because l have a very good supply of standard. Hang fires have happened with CCI, Winchester and S&B primers. Hang fires have only happened in 06 cases and only in cooler weather, 45 degrees and lower. I just don't use Varget in 06 loads in cooler weather. Never has happened in the full case of a 223 or even the 308. I've never even tried a mag primer in the 06 loads because other powders work just fine. Just my experience.
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Old 05-12-2021, 08:29 PM
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I've had hang fires with Varget in 30/06 cases in cooler weather with 150gr + bullets....
Interesting. Something to keep in mind. Thanks!
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Old 05-12-2021, 10:31 PM
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I've used mag primers on some IMR 4064 and Varget loads in my 308 Long Range bolt rifle and gained in accuracy for having used mag primers. That said, this is with a bolt action and I suspect the orientation of all comments above are M1 Garand loads.

Not all reloading is M1 Garand but it would be helpful if posters would specify in their questions if the subject is M1 Garand hand loads or bolt action hand loads.

Or just rename this forum as M1 Garand Reloadiing Forum. Probably it already is so whats the use LOL LOL
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Old 05-13-2021, 06:52 AM
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As far as I know; the cartridge doesn't know what chamber it is sitting in while waiting for the firing pin to fall. It's dark in there. Good Shooting. ....
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