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Old 10-19-2021, 11:13 PM
MGMKS MGMKS is offline
 
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When I started using high powered MilSurp rifles in mid-1970's, the conventional wisdom as imparted to me was along the lines of "if it looks good, it will shoot good, clean your rifle good too". I would buy odd lots of older US ammo for my (low numbered) M1903 at gun shows and have a merry good time and reload it all to do again. At some point one summer in late 1970's I noticed a small split in one case as I was reloading. "Hmmmm -- thats odd" and put aside. Later - another instance at the range was a loud noise, and a substantial puff of wind on my face. It was a severely split case. Both were FA 3x, pretty sure FA31 but cannot find them right now

This scared me good and I quit using the older ammo, and began shooting more modern things like FN5x without any issues.

At some point in 1990's I figured out (thanks Beau Kansteiner) that it was a known problem with Frankford Arsenal - particularly FA31. Link to a GB article here -
https://www.gunboards.com/threads/19...-3006.1123091/

At that point I moved up to using ammo and cases from the 1970's or newer (and some NM cases I have acquired)

Most accounts I recall at the time laid these failures off to poor brass metallurgy, although newer thoughts are that the tooling was worn or defective, and not limited to FA31

Anyway - I have greatly curtailed my shooting as i have become a (mostly) responsible adult since mid-1990's and favor much newer ammo. I have a substantial amount of FN5x that is sort of my "reserve".

Pic below from the GB article should cure anyone from shooting ammo now 50 to nearly 100 years old! It also applies in my mind to using any ammo made under duress, from "third world countries" or similar. If any of my FA ammo resurfaces - I'm pulling the bullets, punching the primers and reassembling as collector pieces. I am also NOT reloading any ammo older than I am (1957).


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Old 10-19-2021, 11:20 PM
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I've only seen two, the one on Reddit (which was posted with a link to it on here) and the recent one today in this thread. Where is the other failure reported at?

I've ordered 3K rounds and the vast majority has been 65 and later production:

- Out of 2k rounds (not in sealed spam cans), some 1964 mixed in with various 70s production dates (75, 76 and 78), most of the ammo was 70's production.
- 1K rounds (1965) came in a sealed spam can.

I have not had a chance to shoot any of it and won't for a while. But I did an inspection on various 1964 rounds and did not notice any defects.
The third was reply to the reddit post it was wfost post.I do not know what to do with mine what do you think could handle a case head failure.

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Old 10-20-2021, 05:28 AM
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Well that saves me from getting burned. Not going to buy it now. I'll keep reloading my own.
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Old 10-20-2021, 06:27 PM
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well dang that is three reports of mke 64 popping that is the year of the 300 rounds I got I feel bad because I started this thread and probably the only reason some people bought this stuff.
Don't sweat that stuff. We all put on our big-boy pants when we climb into this forum. Ultimately we make our own decisions.

I'd like to think so anyway.
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Old 10-20-2021, 07:30 PM
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I am not just bothers me a little that I bought some and I know that guys bought a lot more then my 300.Now I am trying to figure out something that can safely shoot the stuff and handle a case head blowout .I also mainly bought the stuff for the brass and bullets shoot it ones then reload it now I don't know if the stuff is worth reloading now. tell me what you think

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Old 10-20-2021, 07:42 PM
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. . . also mainly bought the stuff for the brass and bullets shoot it ones then reload it now I don't know if the stuff is worth reloading now. tell me what you think
If you think brass is bad, don't reload it.
If powder not corrosive, possibly reuse it
Bullets should be good

Also, modern 30.06 once fired cases often sold on this forum quite reasonably.

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Old 10-21-2021, 06:33 AM
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I got got case case of 63 dated, hope its good. Should we start a thread "Turk 30.
06 Range Report" where people can report any range trips to include date of manufacture, rounds fired and any case splits. This thread started with someone saying they had been to the range numerous times with good results. And would these case splits be the results of age + bad brass or would these have split if shot 2 years after manufacturer?
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Old 10-21-2021, 07:55 AM
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I checked my inventory number, to date I have fired 596 rounds of MKE-63 with no issues at all. I fired 160 rounds last Tuesday all through an M1 with great results. I am sorry to see some having issues causing damage to their weapons.
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Old 10-21-2021, 03:00 PM
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I think all the reports of splitting where mke 64 same year that I got
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Old 10-25-2021, 02:34 PM
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I just got 100 Rounds from SGAmmo. All marked MKE-78. I might give em a go this weekend.
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