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Old 05-08-2021, 06:34 PM
Us2 Us2 is offline
 
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Thanks guys ... lots of good advice. I think I can make a plan now. I think I would like to see if I can get a SG from CMP first. If I get ants in my pants I will bite the bullet and get one off the forum marketplace. I can then get it off to a good smith to make the conversion. The guy in Michigan looks like a good choice.
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Old 05-09-2021, 07:33 PM
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At the moment it might be easier to find a 308 M1 out in the wild?
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Old 05-20-2021, 03:44 PM
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I've been looking around the internet fairly consistently since this message. About the only thing "wild" is the prices. I think I will wait for CMP to open.
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Old 05-20-2021, 07:06 PM
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Go look at this on Gunbroker:
Item# 900871712
From Drury Gunshop

Current bid with three days left is $655.

It is a "Garand Kit"

It has all parts to build a rifle including a barreled receiver.

Barrel looks like crap but you don't care because you want a 308 barrel and Sarco has those right now for $168.
Fulton Armory carries Criterion 308 barrels for $249.

Take a look and seen if that fits you budget.

The stock is a little rough but send it to me and I can Purple Power it, steam out some dents, put on four coats of BLO and it will look lots nicer. NO cost to you.

John
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Old 05-22-2021, 02:39 PM
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Built a TIPO-2 rifle in 7.62x51 NATO. SARCO I think still has barrels. I do not know about the shorter op rods, though.
I built an M1 with an Italian spec Beretta barrel from Sarco. It was cheap, but it was also the worst shooting Barrel Iíve ever owned. I think the barrel only cost me $30 and it gaged like new. My next 308 will have a Criterion barrel or better heavy contour.
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Old 05-22-2021, 03:11 PM
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I built an M1 with an Italian spec Beretta barrel from Sarco. It was cheap, but it was also the worst shooting Barrel Iíve ever owned. I think the barrel only cost me $30 and it gaged like new. My next 308 will have a Criterion barrel or better heavy contour.
Oh, I don't want to hear that.

A friend has a 308 barrel coming from Sarco Monday
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Old 05-22-2021, 05:14 PM
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I built an M1 with an Italian spec Beretta barrel from Sarco. It was cheap, but it was also the worst shooting Barrel I’ve ever owned. I think the barrel only cost me $30 and it gaged like new. My next 308 will have a Criterion barrel or better heavy contour.
Not sure why yours seems to have been out of whack, but of the 120 or so TIPO 2 rifles we've assembled/set up, almost all have shot MOA with my handloads after seating in the wood, and NONE was anywhere close to minimum accuracy standard. In short, all we EXCELLENT. Way better than most typical, full-length .30 M1 rifles, in fact!!!

However, no one I know or have been able to contact recalls or has hard copies of ANY Sarco 7.62x51 ANYTHING (save for BM59 and Tipo rebuild barrels, there is no such thing as "Italian format"...) for thirty bucks, or even close. If so it must have been a very brief sale.

The Citadel units have also been provably fine quality.

Hugh.Sutherland, a contributor here shown in my book shooting one of my test rifles later sold off, can attest to the quality of the Citadels. Internet hyperbole and groundless, unverified poppycock is of less than NO value. Genuine testing and solid documentation is meaningful. That rifle shoot sub MOA with factory ammo, way better with handloads. It's a heavy Citadel. My standard ones shot close to that standard.

Not sure what the problem was, but if inherent, perhaps that unit should've been returned.

Something amiss...and it may not be a barrel specification.

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Old 05-23-2021, 02:19 AM
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have used Italian SAIU 1967 barrels, from SARCO, on a BM59SL and i TIPO-2 replica build and both shot well.
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:37 AM
Eliyahu Eliyahu is offline
 
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Sarco was selling 'BM59E' barrels - the same as T2 - for stupid cheap briefly. I got 5 for $100 plus shipping! Not any more, though, they're over $100 each.
I'm surprised to hear a T2 was inaccurate, they're usually pretty good.


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Old 05-23-2021, 01:39 PM
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I may have what you are looking for. PM sent.

Gary
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