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Old 03-03-2021, 04:40 PM
Griff557 Griff557 is offline
 
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Default Mini Palma...KYL

Looking at going down another rabbit hole I donít know a whole about. What can you tell me about Mini-Palma and Know Your Limits (KYL) matches. How much scope do you need? Would a first focal or second focal plane scope be better ? I think I want an AO that would go to 50í so I could use it for indoor small bore matches also. I currently shoot iron sights on an older 1407 Annie. I donít know if I would scope that rifle or build a new one so Iam open to any suggestions
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Old 03-04-2021, 03:16 PM
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A side focus parallax is much easier to deal with than an adjustable objective.
Firstfocal plane is better. This allows continued consistent hold off regardless of magnification level. A second focal plane means the subtending markings on the reticle only match zero/ drop at one sweet spot in the magnification range ( usually the middle, so for example with 2nd FP in a 4-12 scope only at 8x does it match. )
I use an Athlon Argos 6-24 ( pretty cheap at around $300) and is very good for the price.first focal plane, zero stop, side focus parallax
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Old 03-04-2021, 03:19 PM
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I use my one general purpose.22 for rimfire silhouette matches and nrl22 which uses a lot of kyl targets, plus lots of varied positions and target types at varying ranges. It is a simple cheap savage mark II FV-SR lots of rifle for just around $250.
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Old 03-04-2021, 07:46 PM
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I shoot in a every-other-week mini Palma match @ 100 yards. I use an old 6-24x40 Bausch and Lomb on my Winchester 52D and a straight 36X B&L target scope on my Remington 40XB.

I would recommend a 24 power as a minimum for 100 yards. I think any power between 24 and 36 would be good for 100 yards.

In the off weeks, I shoot a 50 yard match with a Winchester 52B that has a 6-18x40 Nikon. That's OK for 50 yards, but a little light for 100 yards.

Personally, I think a SFP scope is fine for known distances, but opinions vary on that question.

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Old 03-04-2021, 09:02 PM
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Looking at going down another rabbit hole I donít know a whole about. What can you tell me about Mini-Palma and Know Your Limits (KYL) matches. How much scope do you need? Would a first focal or second focal plane scope be better ? I think I want an AO that would go to 50í so I could use it for indoor small bore matches also. I currently shoot iron sights on an older 1407 Annie. I donít know if I would scope that rifle or build a new one so Iam open to any suggestions
If you really want to do "mini Palma" use open sights. (Aperture front and rear)
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:27 PM
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If you really want to do "mini Palma" use open sights. (Aperture front and rear)
Mike B
I bet that would be a challenge-Maybe Iíll take the Annie out and give it a try. Almost all the guys I shoot indoor with are running optics we do an ďiron sightĒ match once a season and they get a little dose of reality
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Old 03-04-2021, 09:30 PM
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It’s not real mini-Palma unless you shoot irons. There is a great sense of accomplishment piling on X’s with. .22 and metallic sights.
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:14 AM
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What size are the mini-Palma targets used with the iron sights?
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:49 AM
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Search LR-S targets.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:34 AM
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