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Old 05-02-2021, 03:27 PM
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Too bad there isnít any 45 ACP being sent with the 1911A1s from the the Army to CMP. Or is there a future chance?

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Old 05-02-2021, 04:14 PM
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Doubtful the Army still has any!! And I had some of the Creedmore .45 HAP
on order with the CMP and was kindly notified that they only held my order in the hopes of resupply, which will not happen so my order was being cancelled. So, thereís that!
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Old 05-02-2021, 06:09 PM
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In the early 80ís when the Army failed to adopt a new service pistol, the Congress refused to authorize any expenditures associated with the existing service pistols including M1911A1 pistols. This included ammunition. The bottom line is that nearly all cal .45 ammo was expended by the time that the M9 pistol was fully adopted. I personally experienced this annoying situation.
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Old 05-02-2021, 08:24 PM
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I've often wondered the same about .45 ammo. Thought maybe at some point the CMP would "discover" large quantities comparable to the past M2 Ball releases, etc.

Also wondering where all the gov't .38 Special is hiding?

I can dream can't I...
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Old 05-02-2021, 09:36 PM
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I've often wondered the same about .45 ammo. Thought maybe at some point the CMP would "discover" large quantities comparable to the past M2 Ball releases, etc.

Also wondering where all the gov't .38 Special is hiding?

I can dream can't I...
There simply isnít any. There never is as much handgun ammo in the system as rifle and machine gun ammo. The .45 ACP ammo that was in the system was pretty much expended when for years no new ammo could be purchased. I ran a small arms training and qualification program during that timeframe. The ammo shortage was severe. I had to account for every round expended.
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Old 05-04-2021, 12:49 AM
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Ok, but that was in the 80s. The M1911A1 are still being used in fun land. Where is the ammunition coming from??
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:17 AM
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In the early 1990’s I was at a Transitional revolver to semi-auto handgun training school where a National Guard Unit was training at the same time. One of the Sgt.’s came over and asked if anyone had a .45 ACP handgun as he had one box of .45 ACP that he had to get rid of, but that he had to turn in the empty shell casings in order to clear his books.

We gladly helped him out. IMHO, being familiar with government purchasing methods, special needs ammunition for specialized Units were most likely ordered on an as needed basis and generally not stockpiled in huge amounts.
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:29 AM
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Ok, but that was in the 80s. The M1911A1 are still being used in fun land. Where is the ammunition coming from??
Well, since the adoption of the M9 pistol, the ďnormalĒ supply system has not supported .45 pistols. Specialized units like MEUSOC which continued to employ 1911 pistols no doubt acquired ammo and accessories using unit acquisition processes.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:10 AM
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I've often wondered the same about .45 ammo. Thought maybe at some point the CMP would "discover" large quantities comparable to the past M2 Ball releases, etc.
The CMP doesn't "discover" anything.
They get what the Army sends them, or what they buy on the open market.
And many times they have to send things back to the Army that they are not permitted to sell.
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Old 05-04-2021, 10:23 AM
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The CMP doesn't "discover" anything.
They get what the Army sends them, or what they buy on the open market.
And many times they have to send things back to the Army that they are not permitted to sell.
Note the quotations around "discover." It's intention was tongue-in-cheek.

Thanks for the education and clarification.
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