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Old 11-10-2020, 03:54 PM
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Default Change in optics power limit for service rifle?

Does this mean we will now be able to go up to 6x magnification on service rifle scopes?

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Old 11-10-2020, 04:12 PM
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trying the link again....

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Old 11-10-2020, 04:50 PM
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Almost certainly the rule will change eventually. But it hasn't yet.
That's what I was thinking
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Old 11-10-2020, 08:18 PM
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Since no one is really using GI optics, I don't see why there would be a change.
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Old 11-11-2020, 05:30 AM
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USAMU. They'll want their team using the new Army optic. Or at least one with similar/relevant capabilities. And once they say the want it, CMP will bump the limit up.
The article stated that the new Direct View Optic (DVO) will be the same Tango6 scope used as the current USSOCOM Squad-Variable Powered Scope (S-VPS). That is not a scope well adapted for precision shooting since it uses a Bullet Drop Compensation (BDC) reticle and lacks target elevation and windage turrets. I guess they might be able to configure a scope that sort of looks like the military scope but it likely will not be the same.
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Old 11-11-2020, 04:14 PM
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If they change the rule somebody is going to profit... and I don't think it will be the shooters.
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Old 11-11-2020, 04:52 PM
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USAMU. They'll want their team using the new Army optic. Or at least one with similar/relevant capabilities. And once they say the want it, CMP will bump the limit up.
Rickgman's point is the AMU NEVER used a true Issued Optic for Service Rifle matches like Camp Perry.
As soon as Optics were allowed for the SR, they went with civilian scopes.............
(Nor for that matter did any Civilians either).........
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Old 11-11-2020, 06:49 PM
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Oh I know. I also know that if US Army soldiers are being issued 6x scopes the AMU will want 6x scopes on their rifles.

And frankly, why not? If we're pretending these are still service rifles, and the Army is using 6x scopes, why not?
I'm trying to explain to you that what optics the AMU uses, or will use, or wants, has NOTHING to do with what a US Army Soldier is being or will be issued. Nothing.

If the CMP were to authorize 6x scopes the AMU would do exactly what they did when scopes were first allowed....... go shopping for March/Vortex etc scopes that gave them every advantage the new rule allowed.

NOONE picked the issued scopes at the time because they were poor performers at the SR game.
And noone will pick the SIG scope for the same reason.
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Old 11-11-2020, 07:57 PM
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Yes, we agree.......
And my OPINION is that if the CMP were to allow 6x scopes, except for being 6x, noone would choose that SIG scope or any in Military use and instead use a civilian model.
Not the AMU, nor any one else.

The AMU could care less about what the regular Army uses in selecting what Optic they use for Service Rifle.
If/When they train or train with Regular Army units they use exactly what they are being issued.
So they will use an M4 with CCO or M150............. or the SIG scope when fielded........ and M855A1 ammo, E-silhouettes, FLC's and ACH's

and leave all the "Service Rifle stuff" behind.
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Old 11-12-2020, 11:56 PM
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It is my OPINION that the rules will change.

The rules have nothing to do with the Service. "Service Rifle" isn't anymore.
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