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Old 05-03-2021, 02:52 PM
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Always glad to see Bob posting on the forum
Yeah it is .

Wish that sonofagun would post up more here . Don't matter how mundane , inane , etc.

You ain't gonna' get NO rest here Lovell ...

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You clean your weapons yet , after Whittington ?
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:20 PM
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Still have more to clean. I did sort out the brass, put the ammo away and started cleaning. It takes more time now that I have to go back and forth.
I have not told this yet, but I had a problem. I was shooting .30-06 M-1 and when I pulled the trigger it just went click. I thought it had not picked up another shell, but I could not get the bolt back. I struck the operating rod handle on the table and a live shell came out, spilling out the powder. I can't see in the barrel yet but I am sure I have a ruptured case in there. I have an old case remover but could not get it to get a grip on the piece of case. I may have to take it to gun smith. I am so glad that the bolt did not quite go into battery because if it had and that shell had fired I probably would not be here. I have seen on here about ruptured cases and no one seems excited about it but it looks like a big deal to me. Am I missing something?
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Old 05-03-2021, 09:19 PM
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Always an honor to hear from Robert C.!
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Old 05-17-2021, 05:08 AM
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Still have more to clean. I did sort out the brass, put the ammo away and started cleaning. It takes more time now that I have to go back and forth.
I have not told this yet, but I had a problem. I was shooting .30-06 M-1 and when I pulled the trigger it just went click. I thought it had not picked up another shell, but I could not get the bolt back. I struck the operating rod handle on the table and a live shell came out, spilling out the powder. I can't see in the barrel yet but I am sure I have a ruptured case in there. I have an old case remover but could not get it to get a grip on the piece of case. I may have to take it to gun smith. I am so glad that the bolt did not quite go into battery because if it had and that shell had fired I probably would not be here. I have seen on here about ruptured cases and no one seems excited about it but it looks like a big deal to me. Am I missing something?
Mr Garand built a fine rifle.

Those ingenious things to prevent out of battery fire.......

Sir sent you email. Im in need of a good read and your book will be it.

Sorry if there is information on ordering here and I missed it.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:15 PM
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Always an honor to hear from Robert C.!
Yeah , it is .

Whatcha' figure out on the lodged brass there Lovell ?

ALWAYS more to learn ...
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Old 05-18-2021, 07:35 PM
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Robert, I had a stuck case in my August '41 Garand years ago.

I reload and didn't pay attention to that bright ring around one of my resized casings.

My firearm discharged ok but I noticed the bolt picked up the next cartridge and only cycled it halfway into the chamber.

I pulled back the op rod and lo and behold the resulting live round wedged tightly in the stuck case extracting the case separation from the chamber.

I never did find the other end of the case!

Ever since then I fashioned a bent paper clip and scraped one end of the paper clip up and down the inside of the recently fired casing.

Upon "feeling" a ever so slight groove where that bright insipient ring normally shows up, I discard that case.

Now I just discard the cases after five to seven resizings!
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Old 05-18-2021, 08:56 PM
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Robert, I had a stuck case in my August '41 Garand years ago.

I reload and didn't pay attention to that bright ring around one of my resized casings.

My firearm discharged ok but I noticed the bolt picked up the next cartridge and only cycled it halfway into the chamber.

I pulled back the op rod and lo and behold the resulting live round wedged tightly in the stuck case extracting the case separation from the chamber.

I never did find the other end of the case!

Ever since then I fashioned a bent paper clip and scraped one end of the paper clip up and down the inside of the recently fired casing.

Upon "feeling" a ever so slight groove where that bright insipient ring normally shows up, I discard that case.

Now I just discard the cases after five to seven resizings!

I reload too, if possible could you please post a picture of the ring you mentioned so the rest us know what to look for too.

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Old 05-18-2021, 10:41 PM
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I have none. Google "case head separation" as I just did to see a picture of a case with that bright ring near the base (primer end) of the shell casing.
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:06 AM
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I reload too, if possible could you please post a picture of the ring you mentioned so the rest us know what to look for too.

Patriot
I think most brass will indicate an area at the case head that shows "brighter".

The bottom section of brass is significantly thicker than the walls up to the shoulder and the case mouth. Section a piece of brass sometime to see how much brass makes up the bottom of a shell.

I think the sizing die more polishes that heavy brass area than actually sizes it due to the structure.

What is being mentioned about the "paper clip" is straightening a paper clip out to its full length than bending a small section at 90 degrees.

The 90 degree bend should be small enough to fit in the case mouth.

Use this "tool" to feel inside the wall of the case, scrape it up and down along the inside wall of the bottom half of the case.

If you have a pending case separation the "tip" of your "probing tool will catch on it and you will feel where the brass has thinned and has created a ring of weakness.

I have Korean KA brass that I have loaded 7 times and I still don't feel any sign of separation. The primer pockets are getting loose though so its getting scrapped.

If you keep your sizing to .003 from fired size you should be good.

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Old 05-19-2021, 08:42 AM
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I think most brass will indicate an area at the case head that shows "brighter".

The bottom section of brass is significantly thicker than the walls up to the shoulder and the case mouth. Section a piece of brass sometime to see how much brass makes up the bottom of a shell.

I think the sizing die more polishes that heavy brass area than actually sizes it due to the structure.

What is being mentioned about the "paper clip" is straightening a paper clip out to its full length than bending a small section at 90 degrees.

The 90 degree bend should be small enough to fit in the case mouth.

Use this "tool" to feel inside the wall of the case, scrape it up and down along the inside wall of the bottom half of the case.

If you have a pending case separation the "tip" of your "probing tool will catch on it and you will feel where the brass has thinned and has created a ring of weakness.

I have Korean KA brass that I have loaded 7 times and I still don't feel any sign of separation. The primer pockets are getting loose though so its getting scrapped.

If you keep your sizing to .003 from fired size you should be good.
Thanks, I also looked up on google for images and saw the cases, even brought up YouTube videos as well.

Thanks again.
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